ELP Digest Thursday, 20 Aug 1992 Volume 2 : Issue 18 The "Is that the last man down?" Edition Today's Topics: New single? ELP COMING UP ON "IN CONCERT" ELP Concert (previously recorded) on WBCN (Boston, MA)... Re: Tour dates Question for ELP list Quick reply to Bob Petterson's "My Life as an ELP fan..." Starting something ELP NOT (ELP humor) RESULTS of progressive rock survey Black Moon Concert (Chicago) ELP Concert: Deer Creek 08/17/92 Digest, mailing address, and administrative stuff to: J.Arnold@bull.com\ = for now, these are the same ELP-related info that you / want to put in the digest to: J.Arnold@bull.com Note: The opinions, information, etc. contained in this digest are those of the original message sender listed in each message below. They are not necessarily those of the mailing list/digest administrator or those of any institution through whose computers/networks this mail flows. ------------------------------------------------------------ From: wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad) Subject: New single? Date: Mon, 10 Aug 92 23:27:52 EDT Does anyone know if there is a new ELP cd single for "Affairs Of The Heart" forthcoming? Since they're servicing it to radio as a single and also releasing a video, I assume a consumer single will find its way to the market as well. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Anil Prasad | "Republicans understand the importance wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca | of bondage between parent and child." wcsanil@alfred.carleton.ca | -- J. Danforth Quayle, 09/08/88 ------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Editor's note: I saw a few people with copies of the cassette single "Affairs of the Heart" at the Hartford show. Didn't get a chance to see what else was the on the tape, however. I haven't seen it in a store yet. = John = ] ------------------------------ Date: 13 Aug 92 00:06:20 EDT From: Damien DeSimone <71221.2364@CompuServe.COM> Subject: ELP COMING UP ON "IN CONCERT" Howdy: According to TV Guide, ELP will be on "In Concert" on August 21. I guess the footage shown will be from July 29 at Great Woods. They also did a short interview for WHCN TV in Hartford, CT before the show there. I forgot to mention this last time, but when I spoke with Carl in Hartford last week, he said that they will be back in the US in November to play some more dates. BOOM BOOM BAP, Damien DeSimone 71221.2364@compuserve.com ------------------------------ Subject: ELP Concert (previously recorded) on WBCN (Boston, MA)... Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 09:53:03 -0400 From: arnold Hi! I heard on the radio yesterday that WBCN (104.1 FM) in Boston will be playing an ELP concert (taped in New York earlier in the Black Moon tour) on TUESDAY, August 25 at 8 pm. Also, a reminder that ABC's "In Concert" on Friday, August 21 (that's tomorrow!) will feature a few ELP songs filmed during the Black Moon tour. Get your tape decks ready! = John = ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 20:47:25 -0400 From: Macon N. Pegram Subject: Re: Tour dates Well, this is another fine tour I've missed, unless they do a second leg before they enevitably split up.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 11:34:49 CDT From: crispen Subject: Question for ELP list I have to confess my status as a "new" ELP fan. I listened to their music during the 70s on the radio, but the only record I ever bought was Tarkus (also Love Beach, but that doesn't count :-(. So after buying Black Moon, and liking it a lot, I decided to buy The Atlantic Years. That motivated me to buy at least Brain Salad Surgery and Works Vol. 1. My question after all that preamble is have these albums been remastered yet, or are they planning to remaster them? I liked the sound on the second CD of The Atlantic Years but my old Tarkus tape sounds pretty bad (lots worse than the remix on The Atlantic Years). So, buy BSS and WV1 now or later (when)? Bob Crispen crispen@foxy.boeing.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 13:37:35 -0400 From: barrett@scooby.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) Subject: Quick reply to Bob Petterson's "My Life as an ELP fan..." >Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 12:44:32 EDT >From: rmp@cosi.cosi.COM (Bob Petterson) >"Black Moon" is nothing new and very hollow. the problem with >all these progrockers coming back is that they are picking the bones of past >glories, and not trying to explore new avenues.... You might consider checking out Richard Sinclair's new album, "Caravan of Dreams." While it is firmly in the Canterbury mold of his earlier bands (Hatfield and the North, Caravan, Camel), I think it's a terrific album that builds on, rather than repeats, his old sound. >I feel real sorry for Carl Palmer on "Black Moon". I keep thinking >that its his age thats slowed him down and reduced him to BOOM BOOM >BAPness. Well, after having seen Carl in concert last week, I think this isn't the case. He is as fast and furious as ever on the drums! His solo especially blew me away. I think he's just been too influenced by pop, and perhaps didn't feel like being inventive. I think he's capable of it, though. Dan //////////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ | Dan Barrett -- Dept of Computer Science, Lederle Graduate Research Center | | University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003 -- barrett@cs.umass.edu | \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\///////////////////////////////////// ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 09:18:54 PDT From: Mark.McCarron-Fraser@Corp.Sun.COM (Mark McCarron-Fraser) Subject: Starting something ELP Comrades! Well hell, let's start something. I've been watching, and responding to, much of the music discussions here and on the Yes Newsletter (BTW, I like this digest much better. Thanks John & everyone else.) Anyway, some of you have expressed disapointment with the new ELP and new Yes music, and new anything else. I've been defending our long-time heros. Let me make my position clear and see where we go with this. First: I'm a musician (guitar, synth, percusion) and have been for (grit teeth, show age) twenty-seven years. While I'm not the world's greatest I've been at it long enough to have gone through some serious changes, and gain some perspective. Second: When Progressive music started - The Beatles "Tomorow Never Knows", & "She Said, She Said", Pink Floyd, The Moody Blues - there was an atmosphere conducive to experimentation. So getting started down the road to Progressiveness was not too hard. In the seventies we got to a destination - or at least part of the way there - with "Tales From Topographic Oceans", "Brain Salad Surgery", "Relayer", "Tarkus", "Starless & Bible Black", "The Lamb" and so on. Then came disco (everyone say PUKE!). And punk (say PUKE again.) These regressive musical forces set back both the progressive movement and the fusion movement. Today, albums like "Union" and "Black Moon" - while admittedly not "Tales" or "BSS" - are laying the ground work for a new round of progressive creativity. We need to get back to the launch pad before we can reach for the stars. I really don't think it is possible to produce an album like "Relayer", or "Pictures At An Exhibition" today. The record companies wouldn't go for it. Third: The real question for us now is whither progressive rock? It isn't 1973. It seems to me that the twenty minute opus has been done as much as is reasonable. (Well, think I can forgive Mike Oldfield. If you haven't listened to "Amorock"go buy it!!) Given the current context, it's hard to imagin ELP or anyone really stretching the boundries of rock music. I look to the next ELP and YES albums for that. (If you don't like "Black Moon" try listening to anything by "Metallica".) This is as good as it`s going to get. (At least for now.) If it were up to me I'd see the progressive rockers head out in some very new directions, but it's not up to me. This is an industry. These folks are constrained by the market and their record labels. {Interestingly I recently talked to Andy Latimer of Camel about the pressure of record labels. He said that record companies alway put enourmous pressure on artists to produce singles, and develop an image, and do all that marketing shit. Andy has gone independent and says he loves it. Of course it does reduce his income.} Last: TRUE CONFESSIONS. I have moved on. I listen to "New Age" music, and classical because there isn't enough happening in rock music to keep me interested anymore. (Not that I don't listen to rock, just not exclusively.) I don't even write progressive music anymore. I think it has been done already - and better than I could do it! So I work on guitar solos and New Age minimalist pieces. Is it possible folks that our heros have moved on? That they've done what they originally set out to do, and now want to do something else, but need the bucks? (Or pounds?) Is it possible that if they recorded - and published - what they thought was really happening music that it would be too weird even for us?? Comments, replies, & death threats all welcome, - Mark mark.mccarron-fraser@Corp.sun.COM ------------------------------ From: Andy Moore Subject: ELP NOT Date: Tue, 14 Jul 92 11:50:07 EDT [ Ed. note: Since we're all ELP fans here, we can have a little fun, right? NOTE WELL: This is meant to be taken in a light, "Spinal Tap" vein... Andy is an ELP fan, too. - John - ] ELP NOT! Portrait of Three Opportunists [reprinted from Keybored magazine, June 1992, pp. 37-42] -= INTRODUCTION =- Many bands, especially progressive or 'art' rock groups of the '70s, have been accused of being 'pretentious.' But shortly after the breakup of Emerson, Lake and Palmer, three would-be musicians from Iowa formed a band that passed 'pretentious,' 'pompous' and 'derivative' and went straight to 'thieving' without a hint of shame. With the assumed names Keith Enema, Greg Lame, and Carl Palmsore, they invented Xerox Rock and, in spite of a total lack of talent or ethics, reached an astonishing and disgusting level of success by releasing shadow ELP albums. This is their story. -= DISCOGRAPHY =- * Enema, Lame & Palmsore: The Barber Ian / Take A Piss / Nice Hedge / The Three Fakes: Clover, Loch Ness, Atrocious / Trank / Ucky Man * Pictures On An X Window: Lemonade / The Little Ugly Fellow / More Lemonade / The Old Condo / Blues Mutilation / Too Much Lemonade / The Putz of Baba Wawa / A Bit More Lemonade / The Curse of Baba Wawa / Enough With The Lemonade / The Great State of Iowa / Ballbasher * Carcass: Erection / Stoned for Years / Econogas / Massive / Mantlepiece / W.C. Fields / AquaMan / Bury Me Tender / Bitches Dishes / My Only Lay / Really Big Humongous Space / Assigned A New Space / Are You Dead Yet, Eddy? * Trickery: The Anus of Smegma (Part 1) / Puke / The Anus of Smegma (Part 2) / From the Big Inmate / The Deputy / Go Down / Trickery / Live In Sin / God's Rhumba * Whip Some Skull On Me: Jerry Lewis 'Em / Toe Caca / Still...You Turn Me Down / Billy the Kidder / Car Knievel Ate: 1st Indigestion -- Part 1 (The Appetizer), 1st Indigestion -- Part 2 (Soup), 2nd Indigestion (Raw Fish), 3rd Indigestion (Dessert) * Hi Again, You Suckers: Another Long Feast of Enema, Lame and Palmsore!: Go Down / Toe Caca / Carcass (stretched-out-beyond-good-taste version) / Take a Really Long Piss (including old stuff ripped off from famous dead musicians, as well as Lame's old band) / Car Knievel Ate (featuring some of the Lamest electric guitar ever) * Jerks, Volume 1: Keith Enema -- Piano Thing No. 1: First Payment (Alleged Gigilo, So?), Second Payment (A Dank, Molting Cannibal), Third Payment (I Gotta Wrong Fuse, Oh!) // Greg Lame -- Lend Your Tongue To Me Tonight / Say La What? / Shallow Be Thy Brain / Nobody Loves Me Like I Do / Closer To Bankruptcy // Carl Palmsore -- The Badass Boogies with the Homeboys / L.A. Fright / New Oiled Jeans / Two Part Investment In Trouble / Fuel For Your Soultrain / Trank // Enema, Lame & Palmsore -- Bus Fare For The Common Dude / Buccaneers * Jerks, Volume 2: Tabby in the Headlights / When The Parking Tickets Cover The Windshield Of My Mind, I'll Steal Your Car / Bullshit / Maple Syrup Rag / Barrelheaded Breakdown / Watching Scooby Doo / So Far To The Mall / Whip Some Skull On Me / I Belong on Father's Hit List / Close But No Cigar / Choo-Choo Jingle / Show Me The Way To Get Cash * Love Bitch: All I Want Is Glue / Love Bitch / A Smell of My Glove / The Mumbler / Canary Oh! / Memoirs Of An Office Whore: (a) Prorate/The Degradation of An Office Temp, (b) Lust That First Night, (c) Letters From The Runt, (d) On Her, The Whole Company (a Strip-Tease) * In Concept: Pewter Gun / Other Stuff You've Heard Before * The Least Bad of Enema, Lame and Palmsore: Go Down / ... * Buffoon: Buffoon / Paper Dud / A Fair Sub For Art / Running Over Juliet / Farewell to Limbs / Changing Pants / Yearning Midgets / Closet Home / Better Yet / Pissholes in the Snow -= INTERVIEW =- KEYBORED: Don't you feel that your perversion of Emerson, Lake & Palmer's work is insulting and demeaning? ENEMA: Oh, no, not at all! They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but we feel that parody is an even higher form of praise. PALMSORE: We revere the guys, they're like gods to us! They're the tops! LAME: We want to honor them with our music. We want to be as much like them as we can; if not artistically, then at least financially! KEYBORED: How did you get started as a 'band'? LAME: Well, we were all three good pals, and we've liked ELP from the very first album. And so when they broke up, we were left with this great, aching void. And so since we were all amateur musicians, we decided to try to play some of their songs. Which was a bit tricky, since we were all three electric guitar players, and none of us knew anything at all about music... ENEMA: We had to start from scratch, as it were... LAME: Anyway, after a few months... PALMSORE: Years, actually... LAME: ...and several times trading instruments, and finally finding some studio musicians who would do most of the actual playing if we paid them enough and kept their names secret, then, well, we had a pretty good start on an ELP catalog of songs. KEYBORED: But your songs aren't really ELP songs, they're twisted shadows... PALMSORE: It was easy to change the songs from the originals. At first we were trying to do straight covers, but, well, most of their songs have too many notes and chords in them! LAME: Besides, there was no way we'd get performance rights! ENEMA: We see our role as one of simplifying their music. Keith Emerson likes to arrange classical bits for common people. Well, he doesn't always go far enough. We like to reduce a song to it's most basic elements. LAME: Yeah, two or three chords at the most, and always 4/4 time signature... ENEMA: So they always sort of drifted from the true songs. Well, between that and the way the lyrics always seemed to be wrong on the liner notes, it wasn't difficult to just "throw it away", as Keith would say, and just go our own way with the songs. Eventually we threw it all away. KEYBORED: Perhaps you go too far in simplifying some of the classical works. After hearing your version of "Toe Caca," Alberto Veeofive is quoted as saying, "Enema has totally missed the idea behind my music." ENEMA: But Alberto isn't one of the masses, is he? I can't help it if he lacks that pop sensibility, that accessibility that we value. I mean, how many albums has HE sold?! KEYBORED: How did you choose the names 'Enema, Lame and Palmsore'? PALMSORE: We've noticed that many record stores abbreviate 'Emerson, Lake & Palmer' as 'ELP' in the bins, and so it occurred to us that if we played our cards right, our albums would get shuffled in with theirs. You see, the average rock music buyer is in a hurry, and not really making full use of his or her senses anyway, so in the rush to grab an ELP album, they sometimes grab one of ours by accident. KEYBORED: Well, the album and song titles and album covers appear to be intentionally similar to the real ELP items. LAME: That's right, it's a pure marketing decision. At first we estimated that a good 65 percent of our album sales relied on that effect. So then we cut the prices by a couple of dollars, and now it's up to 85 percent. For a while in the late eighties we outsold original ELP albums three to one! KEYBORED: What are the band's current and future plans? ENEMA: Well, with the original ELP back with a fantastic new album and a world tour, we decided it would be best if we just kept a low profile. LAME: We talked about suing them, since they seem to have taken some of our ideas of simplification and used them on "Black Moon." PALMSORE: But we decided that we didn't have the stomach for the legal fight; lawyers cost money, ya know? LAME: In fact, to avoid an legal entanglements, we've officially disbanded. However, we each have solo projects planned. Keith is working on something, what is it you're calling it? ENEMA: For now it's just "The Arbor Day Album"... PALMSORE: We can also do joint projects, as long as it's only two of us at a time. Greg and I plan to form a band called "Antarctica." Another possibility is forming a band called '2', which actually works pretty well, because albums from '3' and '2' would all be in the 'T' bins in record stores. ENEMA: I'm looking into a quasi-retrospective band called 'The Heist'. But our long-term hopes are for Emerson, Lake and Palmer to break up again. Based on their personalities and past patterns, we aren't very worried about it... KEYBORED: Let's talk about instrumentation, especially yours, Keith. Why don't you use a Hammond organ? That would seem to be a prequisite for covering Keith Emerson's sound. ENEMA: No, I don't think it is, although I have given that an honest try. I once reserved a MIDI'd Hammond C-3 for the studio. When I went to plug in my sequencer, I noticed there was no MIDI IN jack! So the Hammond technicians come out and say something about being unreasonable. I sit around for about two months while they work on it... KEYBORED: What about Emerson's classic Moog sound? ENEMA: I got this Paia Gnome at a garage sale, but I just couldn't get that fat Moog sound out of it like Emerson uses a lot. Eventually I settled on the Casio VL-Tone as my main axe, 'cause it had a cute demo tune built into it. Since I don't have the fancy, expensive stuff that the other Keith has, I have to get creative, look around for unusual sources of sounds. The first time I heard a Hoover vacuum cleaner, I knew it was a sound I could use. Sounds like a motor, y'know? It goes up, and it goes down. That's how 'Go Down' was inspired... KEYBORED: Keith, it appears that you do very little actual playing of keyboards; you just do most of the sequencing... ENEMA: That's totally wrong. Fiction. I don't do ANY playing, and I do as little sequencing as I can get away with. That's what I hire session musicians for... KEYBORED: Greg, is it true you collaborated with Spinal Tap on a song? LAME: After hearing the beauty of 'Lick My Love Pump,' I wanted to work with Nigel Tufnel, do a collaboration. But he refused to have anything to do with me. So we sequenced every third note of 'Lick...', inverted it, printed it out, and gave it to an anonymous friend who teaches a beginning music appreciation class as an arrangement exercise. Most of the students gave it an honest effort, and failed completely... ENEMA: After all, it was a totally unworkable piece of music... LAME: But one enterprising young student replaced whole sections with stuff copied out of a beginner's piano exercise book, and that formed the basis for 'A Smell of My Glove'..." KEYBORED: Carl, you've made some attempts to outdo everyone else for outlandish stunts. PALMSORE: Yes, well, I liked Palmer's bell, the big one he had hanging over his kit, so I had a custom 15 foot cowbell made for me. It has a really deep, 'clangy' sound to it. Something I have planned is the construction of a special drum kit that will be lifted into the air and rotated, while I'm still playing! It should make for great drum solos. The only problem is, I have to glue the sticks to my hands with Crazy Glue... KEYBORED: Yes, I can see that they're still glued on. Doesn't that make it difficult to eat? PALMSORE: Well, I do a lot of Chinese food... KEYBORED: How about you, Keith? Do you have any on-stage antics to mimic Emerson? ENEMA: Sure, yeah. You know how he jams a knife into his Hammond and then beats up on it? Well, I jam bubble gum in the keys of my Casio. Then I wrestle with my Baldwin grand. Unfortunately, it's quite heavy and usually wins... LAME: Keith was severely injured during our last tour... PALMSORE: He also drinks a lot of wine. I mean a LOT! And then goes 'hurling' into the audience... ENEMA: (smiles) They just love that... KEYBORED: You've also been accused of poor taste, specifically for some rather digusting acts on stage with a dead chicken... ENEMA: A rubber chicken, actually. Digusting is in the eye of the beholder, isn't it? ************************************************************************* ______________________________________________________________________________ Andy Moore andy@ian.stx.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 14:06:34 -0400 From: barrett@scooby.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) Subject: RESULTS of progressive rock survey The progressive rock survey is finished! 27 people responded, which I consider to be only a fair turnout, but I think the results are interesting. The complete results will be posted in the Gibraltar mailing list and in rec.music.misc. If you do not read either of these and would like the complete file, send me e-mail, and I'll send you the whole thing (31 KBytes), which includes my analysis, runners up, and complete statistics. Here is a brief summary of the winners. If more than one album is listed, then there was a tie. Best mainstream: Yes, "Fragile" Yes, "Close to the Edge" ELP, "Brain Salad Surgery" Best obscure: Hatfield & the North, "The Rotter's Club" Eddie Jobson, "The Green Album" Best in-between: Genesis, "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" Van der Graaf Generator, "Pawn Hearts" Most beautiful: Marillion, "Misplaced Childhood" Most overrated: Marillion, "Misplaced Childhood" Most underrated: ELP, "Love Beach" Genesis, "Wind and Wuthering" Yes, "Drama" Best concept album: Genesis, "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" Most complex: Yes, "Relayer" Most virtuosic: ELP, "Brain Salad Surgery" Yes, "Relayer" Most pretentious: ELP, "Love Beach" ELP, "Works Volume 1" Yes, "Tales from Topographic Oceans" Biggest ripoff: Starcastle (ripoff of Yes) Best studio technique: Pink Floyd, "Dark Side of the Moon" Best vocal harmonies: Queen, "A Night at the Opera" Gentle Giant, "Free Hand" Gentle Giant, "Playing the Fool" Yes, "Close to the Edge" Best male vocalist: Jon Anderson, Peter Gabriel Best female vocalist: Annie Haslam Thank you to everyone who participated! 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The concert was exactly what you would expect from these guys. Pirates was unbelievable. They are back, and very very tight. The show was as reported by some of the previous issues of this digest (about 2 hours in length). The play list was also the same as noted earlier. I was very impressed with their performances of the old material. Greg Lake's voice sounded excellent. The new material really sounded great live too. (even 5 minutes of BOOM BOOM BAP). Keith Emerson's keyboard rig is the most elaborate set up he's had to date. Who ever said it resembled something from a Klingon Warship, hit the nail on the head. He had a midied Hammond C3 with a midi controller on top of it sitting on the left side of him. On his other side, a Yamaha midi grand with 2 midi keyboards on top of it. The keyboards were not identifiable as the logos were blacked off. But the top one looked like a Korg. Behind Emerson, with the front panel facing the crowd and majestically towering over everything else, was the old one-of-a-kind Moog synth. Setting just off stage was a rack full of sound modules. I saw 2 Midimoogs (rack-mounted midied versions of the Minimoog, several Korg modules, and some modules I couldn't identify. Greg Lake's equipment was quite impressive as well. He had a rather large rack of amp/effects equipment setting offstage, but I couldn't identify all of it (Dammit Jim! I a Keyboard player, not a bassist!). Greg had enough speaker cabinets behind him to rival any head-bangin heavy metal lead guitarist in the bizz. We were 12th row just off center and were close enough to hear Greg's stage gear cutting through the PA. I noticed he was triggering various other sounds via midi on several songs. He had an Apple Mac II hooked up to his set up also. Carl Palmer had the usual monstrous kit assembled complete with gongs and other assorted percussion devices. It was somewhat downsized from kits I've seen him play in the past. This was probably due to the use of midi pads hooked up to sampled sounds. His drum solo was, as always, phenominal. Nobody does it better than Carl Palmer. The programs were $15 and have a real nice Family tree type chart of all the bands that ELP have been associated with in the past. T-shirts were $23(ouch) but the selection was real nice. If I would have had more money with me I would have bought 2 shirts instead of one. I ended up selecting a real nice Tarkus T-shirt with Tarkus on the front and a giant ELP logo on the back. F**K Bonham!!! Is all I have to say. Talk about getting into the bizz based on who you are and not on what you can do. They blew major chunkage!!!! I don't understand the need for a warm up act with a band of ELPs caliber. I would much rather have seen a 3 hour ELP concert rather than 45 min. of BoneHam followed by ELP's 2 hours. With all the material ELP has recorded, 2 hours is hardly time to do them justice. As it was, they had to do Reader's Digest versions of Tarkus and Pictures at an Exhibition just to fit everything into the 2 hour show. In closing, still one of the best shows you could ever see. I saw them in 1978 and they still sound every bit as good today as they did back then. These guys are showmen with extreme amounts of talent. Not too many bands can perform with the intensity that ELP have. SEE THE SHOW!!!!!!! ( ) __ ( ) ( ) ) ) ) (( (( / / )) (( )) (( (( ( (( )) ____/ / _____ __ __ _____)) ) (( )) ( (/ ___ / /___ / / / / / /___ /( (( )) (( ) ) )/ /__// //__// / /_/ / //__//)) ))( (_) )(( Doug David (( /_____/ /____/ /_____/ /___ /(( (( ) (_)) doug@tellabs.com ))__________________________// )) ))( ( ( /__________________________/ ( ( ( ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 13:42:24 EST From: David Markfield Subject: ELP Concert: Deer Creek 08/17/92 It was a truly incredible show. I was worried when I saw some bad reviews on the net, but my girlfriend and I absolutely LOVED the show. This is all the more exceptional since she was not a fan of the band's before the show and wasn't overly familiar with their material. However she became a believer. The highlight for both of us had to be Tarkus. They did a wonderful job on that. And the lighting effects both for Tarkus and the entire show were superb. Incidentally both local papers gave the show excellant reviews, which is really suprising considering the reaction ELP usually get in the press. Our only real disappointments were...1) Bonham really sucked. I mean seriously Led Zepplin clones are a dime a dozen and 2) We both felt it was a real shame that there were not more people able to enjoy the show. They were giving tickets away like crazy and doing all sorts of 2 for 1 deals and still had maybe 4000 at most. Other than these things show was fantastic. I would highly recommend as many people attending as possible. (Incidentally set list was the same as previously posted with the only item I had not seen mentioned being Keith's performance of "Flight of the Bumblebee" during America/Rondo) | | Some say that knowledge Dave Markfield | is something that you never have 6432 Maidstone Road #434 | Some say that knowledge Indianapolis, IN 46254 | is something sat in your lap | Some say that heaven is hell | Some say that hell is heaven | | - KaTe Bush ------------------------------ End of ELP Digest [Volume 2 Issue 18] *************************************