ELP Digest Monday, 23 Nov 1992 Volume 2 : Issue 23 The "Bop Me Eddy" Edition Today's Topics: re: Length of "Welcome Back..." CD ELP Digest V2 #22 -- comment Re: ELP Digest V2 #22 Foreshadowing of the next ELP Digest... Digest, mailing address, and administrative stuff to: J.Arnold@bull.com\ = for now, these are the same ELP-related info that you / want to put in the digest to: J.Arnold@bull.com Note: The opinions, information, etc. contained in this digest are those of the original message sender listed in each message below. They are not necessarily those of the mailing list/digest administrator or those of any institution through whose computers/networks this mail flows. ------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: re: Length of "Welcome Back..." CD Date: Mon, 02 Nov 92 09:58:37 EST From: arnold In the V2 #21, someone asked about the length of the "Welcome Back..." CD. My copy is in a box somewhere not easy to get to (I've moved out of my house temporarily while it gets remodelled). However, I do know that the CD is the same length as the vinyl or cassette. Nothing was taken off and nothing was added. My recollection is that this album is an entire ELP concert minus the encores. Back in the 70s (when it was recorded), that would probably have been 90-120 minutes. I'm pretty sure it is more than would fit on a single CD. (It was a 3-lp set.) Perhaps a reader could tell us the exact length of the 2 CDs? - John - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Nov 92 01:03:57 CST From: hoyme@src.honeywell.com (Ken Hoyme) Subject: ELP Digest V2 #22 -- comment Jim Smith comments: > FISHBOY asks: >> Can someone please tell me the length of the _Welcome Back, MY >>Friends_ live set? The reason I'm wondering is that I don't want to >>spend a good sum of money on a double disc import unless it has a decentt >>amount of music on it. (_Yesshows_, for example, is only 77 minutes long, >>and thus could fit on one CD, but it was released as a double.) > I don't have the actual length of "Welcome Back," but I estimate it to be > around 100 minutes. It certainly wouldn't fit on 1 CD, and it certainly > would fit on 2. I know that it's over 90 minutes, because it doesn't > fit on a C90 cassette. It was originally a triple LP. That set has been converted to CD -- but it has not been released in the US. I have a Japanese import that I bought at a Tower Records in Phoenix. It is a 2-CD set with timings of 53:42 for CD1 and 55:52 for CD2. The first CD contains sides 1 to 3 from the LP set. The second CD contains sides 4 to 6. The inner folder is a 3-way foldout that duplicates the 3-LP fold out of the original album. The only one I haven't bought in CD format is Love Beach. Having only seen that as an expensive import, I will have to live with the LP version (which hasn't been played in over a decade) for a while longer... :-) ------------------------------ From: Ron Chrisley Date: Tue, 3 Nov 92 13:11:27 GMT Subject: Re: ELP Digest V2 #22 > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 11:12:36 pdt > >From: Jim Smith > Subject: Emerson's birthday, etc. > > > - The mislabeling of the tracks on disc two, and the omission of song > >lengths. Again, someone who didn't know much about the band would be > >totally baffled when listening to the second disc. How is it mislabeled? > > Ron Chrisley writes: > > >As far as I know, this was the first ELP gig in the UK for 15 years! > > This was the first ELP tour anywhere for at least 14 years! Yeah, what I meant was it was the first one in the *entire* UK for 15 years. It wasn't as if they had played 3 dates in Birmingham or Manchester the week before, to warm up. > > I'm curious, Ron: Do you ever hear of "local" gigs by Emerson, Lake or > Palmer over in England, ie, Keith decides to play at a local small club > one evening, or sits in on the piano with some local band, or the such? Nope. Keith lives in the SF Bay Area, so that happens there sometimes (though I never witnessed it!). > > >Lake was in the center, and I did not see the Persian rug. > > Does this mean that Palmer's drum set was not in the center? That is correct. Palmer was on the right; E L P > > Mark McCarron-Fraser asked for a description of what is the concept > behind Brain Salad Surgery, and I gave it a shot, which I thought > I'd share with you: > > "Eh, 'Brain Salad Surgery' means the same thing as 'Whip some skull on me.' > I don't know what that means. Do you know what that means?" - Keith Emerson > > Brain Salad Surgery is about the decline in value of human life. Yeah, perhaps, but the expression "brain salad surgery" is a euphemism for fellatio. > "Benny the Bouncer" is a light, funny piece, but also once again brings up > the theme of the value of human life. Benny dies because Savage Sid poured > whiskey on his boots. A meaningless death, perhaps a meaningless life. Guinness isn't whiskey... No one would be drinking a pint of whiskey! By the way: Affairs of the Heart has not yet been released as a single in the UK... Ronald L. Chrisley (ronc@cogs.susx.ac.uk) School of Cognitive & Computing Sciences University of Sussex, Falmer, Brighton, BN1 9QH, UK Tel: +44 273 606 755, ext 2336; Fax: +44 273 671 320 ==If I never replied to your message, chances are I never received it== ------------------------------ Subject: Foreshadowing of the next ELP Digest... Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 16:56:14 EST From: arnold Hi! It's been 3 weeks since the last ELP Digest and I want to get this edition in the mail before the (American) Thanksgiving holiday. This required me to not get a few late-breaking items in the Digest. Last Friday, my brother found an interview with ELP in a New York-published alternative music magazine called "Seconds". This magazine is a magazine that covers music that seems to be totally unlike ELP (more like "college radio bordering on hardcore metal") so it was (a) refreshing to see an ELP article in its midst and (b) almost incredible to find that this is probably the best (in terms of most candid and to the point) ELP interview I've ever read. They talk about thewir reaction to being villified by the critics and admit to some mistakes (such as Love Beach; Lake even says ELPowell was a mistake). This find led me to check every magazine in Tower Records for possible ELP references and, what do you know, I found an article about ELP in a British music magazine called "Rock World." This is more of a fluff piece but there are a few insightful nuggets of info. Such as, a few years ago Keith claims to have been so discouraged with pain in his hand following an accident that he almost dropped out of the music business and had gone and gotten a job as a motorcycle courier! I'll try to get as much of the info in these as possible in the next issue. Till then, enjoy! - John - ------------------------------ End of ELP Digest [Volume 2 Issue 23] *************************************