ELP Digest Thursday, 15 Sep 1994 Volume 4 : Issue 15 The "Daily Talk of War" Edition Today's Topics: World Wide Web and ELP Corrections sent Gibraltar Re: Sheet Music for Fanfare for the Common Man ELP Muzak More Corrections of ELP - and of "In The Hot Seat" Response to criticism of "In The Hot Seat" Another opinion Scandinavian Info and Fan Club Re: KE9 and othe sheet music Mobile Fidelity Tarkus Re: Tarkus on CD Asia in Asia re: Triumvirat Tarkus.mid (Tarkus MIDI file) ELP Digest V4 #14 -Reply (re: Greg Lake's first solo album) Re: KE9 Sheet Music For submission to the ELP Digest (Keith's "Top Twelve") Prelude ======= This edition finishes up the backlog of ELP mail I got while I was on vacation as well as some that I've received in the past few weeks. So, I'm hoping to get back on schedule. Also, there's a chance that I'll be moving my ELP-related stuff from my work email account to a personal account (so I don't have to dial-in to work at night to deal with the ELP stuff). I'll give lots of warning if you should change the address to which you submit ELP Digest stuff and both addresses should work for awhile. But I just wanted you to be aware that it might happen. Thanks, as always, to everyone who reads this, contributes, tells others, etc. - John - ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 21:11:34 +0200 From: bjorn-are.davidsen@s.televerket.tele.no To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com (Non Receipt Notification Requested) Subject: World Wide Web and ELP Hi John! After the last few weeks having got the opportunity to enter the World WIde Web and hunt for information I have both had the great pleasure to read old issues of the Digest, and find other places dealing with ELP. The ELP Digest has had not a few gems during the threee years or so it has been in existence! I particularly enjoyed * Dan Barret's review of "Black Moon" in Vol 2, Issue 15 (BOOM BOOM BAP as a comment on the title track, and "March of the Pregnant Elephants" as alternative title for "Rome and Juliet"!) * Andy Moore's hillarious "interview" with "Enema, Lame and Palmsore" in Vol 2, Issue 18. I laughed out loud on the bus home when reading this. * All the concert reviews from the 92/93 tours. Some suggestions for the Home Page (even if I guess you already have thought about such things yourself): * One should have a kind of FAQ where things like a discography, list of official videos and perhaps some of the best unofficial CD's and videos. * Some general info on the three band members (short biography) And you should make the home page known to other pointers to these kind of things (on the Prog rock home page, and on general music home pages). Re: ELP on other lists. The progrock newslist "Gibraltar" has put together a Prog Dictionary (called GEPR). ELP is one of the VERY many prog bands listed, however, one of those with the longest entries. I have quoted it it in the following (and then the entry on The Nice), to show how prog fans in general may look upon ELP/The Nice.Ther are both positive and negative info, as well as some errors. I will try to point out these ones to Gibraltar in the near future. Emerson, Lake & Palmer [UK] ---------------------- Emerson, Lake and Palmer (70), Tarkus (71), Pictures at an Exhibition (71), Trilogy (72), Brain Salad Surgery (73), Welcome Back My Friends to the Slow That Never Ends (74), Works Vol. 1 (77), Works Vol. 2 (77), Love Beach (78), In Concert (79), Black Moon (92), Live at the Royal Albert Hall (93), Return of the Manticore (93) ELP pioneered the keyboard "power trio" that was imitated by many bands. Keith Emerson was in the Nice where he was noted for his renditions (torturings?) of classical works while stabbing his Hammond organ with knives. After the Nice broke up, Emerson joined forces with Greg Lake (ex-King Crimson) and Carl Palmer (ex-Atomic Rooster). Together, ELP blasted into the '70s with a keyboard-heavy bombardment of incredible proportions. ELP debuted at the 1970 Isle of Wight festival where they ripped into their now famous rendition of Mussorgsky's "Pictures at an Exhibition," an orgasmic moog workout pushing the bounds of anything previously heard by a rock keyboardist. Emerson's sheer mastery of the moog and flamboyant technical ability were incredible; his talent along with the dynamo drumming antics of Carl Palmer, won the band a legion of fans. Their first self-titled studio release was a quieter work where Emerson displayed his brilliance on the piano in the wonderful "Take a Pebble." With Lake's rich tenor wrapped around an extended piano improvisation, "Take a Pebble" was to become an ELP concert standard. Emerson also had a penchant for lifting classical pieces without credit and making them his own, e.g., "The Barbarian" on ELP is taken from Bartok's "Allegro Barbaro" while "The Knife's Edge" is Janacek's "Sinfonietta." ELP also contained "Lucky Man," often cited as the first use of the moog synthesizer on a rock album. Tarkus followed in 1971. The side-long "Tarkus" featured the moog extensively. "Are You Ready, Eddy?" is a tribute to reknown studio engineer Eddy Offord, whose name graces many classic Yes albums. Tarkus was followed by the LP release of their Isle of Wight show. The next studio release was Trilogy which contained the wonderful "From the Beginning." "Abaddon's Bolero" has Emerson building layers of keyboards while "Hoedown" is an excerpt from Copeland's "Rodeo." After Trilogy, ELP formed their own label, Manticore. In addition to releasing Americanized versions of classic Italian Prog (e.g., PFM, Banco), ELP released their magnum opus: Brain Salad Surgery. BSS contained the 30 minute suite, "Karn Evil 9," that featured Emerson in all his splendor working his Hammond, moog and grand piano against Palmer's furious drumming. Also featured is Palmer's attempt at synthesized percussion on Ginastera's "Toccata." BSS was quickly followed by the live Welcome Back My Friends.... It contains what I feel to be the definitive version of "Tarkus:" aggressive and energetic. It also contains nearly all of BSS and wonderful piano improvisations. After these excellent works, ELP ran out of fresh ideas and went into an extended hiatus. In '77, ELP released the 2LP Works Vol. 1. This reunion album contained three sides of individual works (one side/member) plus two group efforts. Emerson's side is a classical piano concerto and Lake contributes several love ballads. Palmer's contribution is the most ELP-like but suffers from poor composition. The excellent "Pirates" and a perfunctory rendition of Copeland's "Fanfare for the Common Man" highlight the album. The album sold to dedicated fans but paled in comparison to the glory of previous works. This LP was followed by the forgettable Works Vol. 2 and Love Beach. The latter is marred by terrible love ballads and an overall lack of enthusiasm. The band called it quits after the lackluster In Concert. In 1986, Emerson and Lake enlisted Cozy Powell (ex-Rainbow, Jeff Beck) to fill the drum slot. Though better than Love Beach, ELPowell was a weak effort rehashing stale ideas. It does contain a passable version of Holst's "Mars." After a tour, this version of ELP folded. Emerson joined with Palmer in '88, Robert Berry stepped in as singer and they called themselves 3. Bad name for an equally bad album. They too folded. In '92, a reunion of the original ELP was realized in the form of Black Moon. Following their tried and true format, it sold well to fans but otherwise failed to draw attention though it is a fairly solid effort. ELP were a bastion of early '70s Progressive Rock and many bands are compared back to ELP for a point of reference thus you should become familiar with their style. So, to the potential ELP listener, I suggest you get The Atlantic Years which contains nicely remastered versions of their best works and serves as a fine introduction. If you'd rather not buy a 2CD set, check out ELP or Brain Salad Surgery. Nice [UK] ---- The Thoughts Of Emerlist Davjack (67), Ars Longa Vita Brevis (68), Everything As Nice As Mother Makes It (69), Nice (69), Five Bridges (70), Elegy (71),...plus countless best-of compilations & repackagings. Predeccessor to ELP and Refugee. Much more classical and symphonic than ELP in some respects, though some may view it as more pompous and pretentious. Foundations of Emersons style and ELPs future were laid here and in particular on the song "America" Keith Emerson's first prominent band, The Nice had a bad reputation in the USA. Mr. Emerson played an arrangement of "America" (from West Side Story) and he kept burning American flags. This tune, along with another Nice gem, Rondo (69) ...{I don't know what the '69' is for} were played by ELPowell and ELP for encores during the last two tours. Anyways, the music has a very strong classical influence...much more so than ELP. In fact, most material was with an orchestra. There were the usual long pieces, most notably 'Five Bridges'. The definitive album, "Keith Emerson and The Nice" has most of their noteworthy material including America. The album is live and features some truly brutal keyboard torturing. If it's a cheap CD, pick it up. Otherwise, you can find a greatest hits CD with everything on it for about $2. Best known as Keith Emerson's 'first band', the early 4 piece band consisted of Emerson, Brian Davison (drums), Lee Jackson (bass and vocals) and Davey O'List (guitar). O'list quit after the first album, and they went on as a 3 piece. Jackson has to be the absolute worst vocalist ever to record, I mean this guy positively cannot sing, period. Fortunately, by "Nice" and "Five Bridges" the emphasis was mostly on instrumental stuff, although it still seems every song would still be destroyed at some point by Jackson's awful crooning. Musically, lots of Dylan covers, butchered classical pieces, like that. Keith Emerson fans take note! In case you didn't know, this Emerson was one third (or one fourth, depending on which album) of The Nice before he was the E of ELP. The Nice's music is a really quirky late-60's sort of mix: some incredible powerhouse instrumentals, some beautifully played, almost heartfelt songs, and some very fun(ny) pop. IMHO, their albums got better as they went along. *The Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack* (1967?) has some great moments (particularly the title track and the rather pretentiously psychedelic "Dawn"), but is easily surpassed by *Ars Longa Vita Brevis* (1968?). This latter album was an important step in the development of the pompous art-rock Emerson later made his fame and fortune on, as it has one of the earliest side-long prog pieces I've run into; what's more, they split this one into "movements"! Amazingly enough, too, Emerson actually credits most of the composers of the various "cover" pieces -- Bernstein and Sibelius get full credit for "America" and the Intermezzo from "Karelia Suite", and Bach is *almost* credited for the theme borrowed from his Brandenburg Concerto No. 3. (I.e. the liner notes say they borrowed from this Concerto, but never actually mention the name of J. S. Bach. Guess you're just supposed to *know* who wrote the Brandenburgs.) Their third album, *Everything as Nice as Mother Makes It* (1969), is absolutely superb. (Note that this one was re-released by Columbia in 1973 under the title *Nice*; the contents and liner notes are the same, but the original has lots of cool pictures.) It still has the same strange mix of styles as the other two, but everything is just GREAT! If you only get one Nice album, get this one. (But Ars Longa is also very much worth having, as are the two live/compilations, *Elegy* and *Five Bridges*, whose CD reissue is a little complicated but they do exist.) Note to vinyl hounds: gobs of crusty old "Greatest Hits" (or what-have-you) collections of The Nice exist, and some of them have weird/rare versions of several songs. Worth a few bucks if you find 'em in a used record store. Early and unpredictable Keith Emerson band. Worth a listen if you're interested in the very beginnings of progressive rock. [See Emerson, Lake and Palmer/Jackson Heights/Refugee] STILL VERY MUCH ENJOYING IN THE HOT SEAT!!! Bjo/rn Are ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 11:29:55 +0200 From: bjorn-are.davidsen@s.televerket.tele.no To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com (Non Receipt Notification Requested) Subject: Corrections sent Gibraltar For your info: Enclosed are the corrections/suggestions I just sent to Gibraltar's Encyclopedia of Progressiv Rock (GEPR) om ELP and the Nice. I have tried not to discuss too much the encyclopidias general opinions/reviews of various albums, trying instead to focus on various "errors"/misinformations If Digest readers have any more suggestions, I think we all would be grateful! Emerson, Lake & Palmer (UK) ---------------------- Updated discography: Emerson, Lake and Palmer (70), Tarkus (71), Pictures at an Exhibition (71), Trilogy (72), Brain Salad Surgery (73), Welcome Back My Friends to the Show That Never Ends (3 LP, 2 CD, 74), Works Vol. 1 (2 LP/2 CD, 77), Works Vol. 2 (77), Love Beach (78), In Concert (79), Emerson, Lake and Powell (86, as CD with 2 bonus tracks), Black Moon (92), Live at the Royal Albert Hall (93), Return of the Manticore (4 CD BOX, 93), "Works Live" (2 CD remastered "In Concert", with several additional tracks, 93), In The Hot Seat (94). Back catalog was digitally remastered in 1993. No comments on the first paragraph ELP pioneered the keyboard "power trio"... No comments on the second paragraph: ELP debuted at the 1970 Isle of Wight... Correction of next paragraph: Tarkus followed in 1971. The side-long "Tarkus" featured the moog extensively. "Are You Ready, Eddy?" is a tribute to reknown studio engineer Eddy Offord, whose name graces many classic Yes albums. Tarkus was followed by the LP release of their "Pictures at an Exhibition" show, a marvellous live performance in Newcastle City Hall, March 26, 1971. The next studio release was Trilogy... The rest of the paragraph is OK. No comments onm the next one: After these excellent works, ELP ran out of... Suggestion for next paragraph (my words given in capital letters): In 1986, Emerson and Lake enlisted Cozy Powell (ex-Rainbow, Jeff Beck) to fill the drum slot. Though MUCH better than Love Beach, ELPowell was a SOMEWHAT weak effort FELT BY SOME TO BE rehashing stale ideas. It does contain a passable version of Holst's "Mars", AND HAS SOME OTHER GOOD MOMENTS. No comments on next paragraph: After a tour, this version of ELP folded. Emerson... Suggestions for A NEW PARAGRAPH: THEIR 94 CD "IN THE HOT SEAT" IS ONCE AGAIN A MOVE IN A NEW DIRECTION, WITH MORE TRACES OF BLUES/SOUL/DYLAN AS WELL AS A NEW VERSION OF THEIR CLASSIC "PICTURES AT AT EXHIBITION" IN FIVE CHANNEL DOLBY SURROUND (SAME VERSION AS ON THE BOX SET FROM 93). Suggestions for the last paragraph (again in CAPITAL letters): ELP were a bastion of early '70s Progressive Rock and many bands are compared back to ELP for a point of reference thus you should become familiar with their style. So, to the potential ELP listener, I suggest you get "THE RETURN OF THE MANTICORE" IF YOU CAN AFFORD A 4 CD BOX CONTAINING VERY NICELY REMASTERED VERSIONS OF THEIR BEST WORKS, AS WELL AS 40 MINUTES WITH NEW RECORDINGS OF SONGS FROM THEIR OTHER GROUPS. If you'd rather not buy a 4 CD BOX, check out ELP or Brain Salad Surgery. Nice (UK) ---- First paragraphs OK! Corrections with CAPITAL LETTERS: Keith Emerson's first prominent band, The Nice had a bad reputation in the USA. Mr. Emerson played an arrangement of "America" (from West Side Story) and he kept burning American flags. This tune, along with another Nice gem, Rondo (COMMENT: "Rondo 69" is a live version from 1969!) HAS BEEN PLAYED BY ELP ON ALL TOURS AS PART OF THE encores. Anyways, the music has a very strong classical influence...much more so than ELP. In fact, most material was with an orchestra. There were the usual long pieces, most notably 'Five Bridges'. The definitive album, "Keith Emerson and The Nice" has most of their noteworthy material including America. The album is live and features some truly brutal keyboard torturing. If it's a cheap CD, pick it up. Otherwise, you can find a greatest hits CD with everything on it for about $2. Next paragraph: OK! Comments on next paragraph: Keith Emerson fans take note! In case you didn't know, this Emerson was one third (or one fourth, depending on which album) of The Nice before he was the E of ELP. The Nice's music is a really quirky late-60's sort of mix: some incredible powerhouse instrumentals, some beautifully played, almost heartfelt songs, and some very fun(ny) pop. IMHO, their albums got better as they went along. *The Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack* (1967?) has some great moments (particularly the title track and the rather pretentiously psychedelic "Dawn"), but is easily surpassed by *Ars Longa Vita Brevis* (1968?). This latter album was an important step in the development of the pompous art-rock Emerson later made his fame and fortune on, as it has one of the earliest side-long prog pieces I've run into; what's more, they split this one into "movements"! MOST CLASSSICAL SONGS REARRANGED BY THE NICE SHOULD BE WELL KNOWN, HOWEVER, Emerson DOES (AS HE TRENDED TO OVERLOOK WITH EARLY ELP) CREDIT most of the composers of the various "cover" pieces -- Bernstein and Sibelius get full credit for "America" and the Intermezzo from "Karelia Suite", and Bach is *almost* credited for the theme borrowed from his Brandenburg Concerto No. 3. (I.e. the liner notes say they borrowed from this Concerto, but never actually mention the name of J. S Bach. Guess you're just supposed to *know* who wrote the Brandenburgs. YES INDEED, IS THIS SOME KIND OF HINT AT EMERSON NOT CREDITING OR BEING HIGH BROW?!?!) Their third album, *Everything as Nice as Mother Makes It* (1969), is absolutely superb. (Note that this one was re-released by Columbia in 1973 under the title *Nice*; the contents and liner notes are the same, but the original has lots of cool pictures.) It still has the same strange mix of styles as the other two, but everything is just GREAT! If you only get one Nice album, get this one. (But Ars Longa is also very much worth having, as are the two live/compilations, *Elegy* and *Five Bridges*, whose CD reissue is a little complicated but they do exist.) Note to vinyl hounds: gobs of crusty old "Greatest Hits" (or what-have-you) collections of The Nice exist, and some of them have weird/rare versions of several songs. Worth a few bucks if you find 'em in a used record store. Rest of the entry OK! And a final comment: I must, however, say that I can't understand this rather strange "bickering" on Emerson not giving cedits!! At least to European music lovers most of The Nice and ELP's classical covers are very well known, and part of the fun is trying to discover what is being quoted when (especially at live concerts!!). ELP has (according to ELP Digest) been paying credits (by which I also mean cash) to all copyright holders who should have this, for a long time (even if not all composers names explicitly was given on the first editions of the album covers). More on Emerson not giving credits, as I by accident passed by the words in the ELP entry on this in the second paragraph. The part in GEPR which reads: >Emerson also had a penchant for lifting classical pieces without >credit and making them his own, e.g., "The Barbarian" on ELP is taken from >Bartok's "Allegro Barbaro" while "The Knife's Edge" is Janacek's >"Sinfonietta." should (in my opinion) either be removed or written as (my comments again in capital letters): Emerson also had a penchant for lifting classical pieces without credit ON THE COVERS OF THE FIRST ALBUM EDITIONS (GENERALLY NO PROBLEM AS MOST OF THE PIECES ARE WELL KNOWN), e.g., "The Barbarian" on ELP is taken from Bartok's "Allegro Barbaro" while "The Knife's Edge" is Janacek's "Sinfonietta." LATER COVERS HAVE THIS CORRECTED. ON ELP'S LIVE SHOWS EMERSON MADE THIS INTO A KIND OF GAME, QUOTING FROM VARIOUS COMPOSERS DURING HIS SOLOS, E.G. GRIEG'S " IN THE HALL OF THE MOUNTAIN KING", "THE MARSEILLAISE", BACH'S TOCCATAS AND A LOT OF OTHERS. Bjo/rn Are ------------------------------ To: Paul Porcelli Cc: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com Subject: Re: Sheet Music for Fanfare for the Common Man Date: Tue, 06 Sep 94 12:02:19 -0400 From: arnold@cyclades.ma30.bull.com Paul: Fanfare for the Common Man (without the improvisation at the end) is by Aaron Copland and should be available (or at least be ordered by) just about any music store that can handle orders for classical music. I've seen it but don't recall if it's published by Boosey & Hawkes or someone else. Perhaps a Digest reader will provide more information for you. (hint hint). I don't know of anyone who has transcribed the ELP "value-added" at the end of it, though. Hope this helps, - John - P.S. Please let me know if you would like to be added to the ELP Digest mailing list. I didn't see your email address in my list. ------------------------------ Subject: ELP Muzak To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com Date: Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:38:39 PDT Hi John! I thought this may be of interest to other ELP Digest readers. This Labor Day Weekend I pulled over into a Long John Silver's (fast food restaurant specializing in seafood) for a bite to eat. As I ate my lunch, I overheard the Muzak in the background. Sometimes it's fun to pick out what they're playing. I once heard the corniest version of Steve Perry's "Oh Sherrie." Anyway, as I ate, I heard this one song which sounded real familiar, but I had a hard time figuring out. It drove me nuts. I then tried singing some of the words (yes, with my mouth full), and then finally came the part with the title--"Affairs of the Heart!" Most of the song was redone with a flute playing the verse and a tenor sax playing the bridge. I wonder if anyone else has ever heard any other ELP done in Muzak style. There is an easy-listening station here in the San Francisco Bay Area that periodically plays "From the Beginning", but they always cut it right where Emerson's synth solo at the end is. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 10:46:58 +0200 From: bjorn-are.davidsen@s.televerket.tele.no To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com (Non Receipt Notification Requested) Subject: More Corrections of ELP - and of "In The Hot Seat" As I have gotten a message from Gibraltar's Mike Taylor it seems that instead of taking in my "corrections" of GEPR's entries on ELP and The Nice (apart from the discographies and some minor details), he wants me to write my own entries for those groups and particularily a more detailed one on ELP. I hope I will be up to the task, but as I in a sort time am leaving for a seminar abroad and will be away from the net, I will not be able to do it for about two weeks. Perhaps someone can give me a bit help on what to write which may give ELP their due place in an encyclopedia on progressive rock (without being overwhelmingly idolising!)!!! PLEASE send all and any suggestions DIRECTLY TO ME (and if you want of course ALSO to the Digest!), so that I may look at them as soon as I am back. Bjo/rn Are And then a message from LIV with more info on and corrections of the titles on "In The Hot Seat": Hello again, everybody! The following is a list of the songs on ELP's new album "In The Hot Seat": 1: Hand of Truth (Previously titled as " We Have The Power") 5:22 (Emerson, Lake) 2: Daddy 4:42 (Lake) 3: One By One 5:07 (Emerson, Lake, Olsen) 4: Heart On Ice 4:19 (Lake, Olsen) 5: Thin Line 4:45 (Wray, Olsen, Emerson) 6: Man In The Long Black Coat 4:12 (Dylan, Arrangement: Emerson) 7: Change 4:44 (Wray, Olsen, Emerson) 8: Give Me a Reason To Stay (Previously titled Reason To Stay) 4:14 (Diamond, Lorber) 9: Gone Too Soon 4:11 (Lake, Wray, Wechsler) 10: Street War 4:23 (Emerson, Lake) 11: Pictures at an Exhibition - we know about that already! The album has been released in Japan! A note to Maureen, who asked for a tape of the Wiltern Show - if you write to me at my address (I do not own a computer!), I can help out with that and I also know where to get hold of the CD of that show! The Works 3 concert on Saturday 27th August in Gosport, England was a great success and it was the best concert to date by this band! They delivered ELP music at a very high standard and created a wonderfull atmosphere in the audience! Thank you to Bjorn Are for helping me again! Liv G. Whetmore, 28 Stonebanks, Manor Road, Walton-on-Thames, Surrey KT12 2QE, ENGLAND ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 10:59:16 +0200 From: bjorn-are.davidsen@s.televerket.tele.no To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com (Non Receipt Notification Requested) Subject: Response to my criticism of "In The Hot Seat" As we think this may be of concern also for others here comes an exchange between Mark (McCarron-Fraser) and myself on my newspaper review of "In The Hot Seat", as given in the latest ELP Digest (Issue 13): To Bjorn: First, thanks for all of your letters to the ELP Digest. I like reading your notes, especially your comments onIn the Hot Seat. ;-) Can't wait to hear it. In your review for the magazine why did you include: >even if many felt them to lack somewhat in musical warmth and honesty ?? Really. Don't do the nasty critic's work for them! ELP are still light years ahead of most of contemporary rock music. Hip-hop? Rap? Heavy Metal? Only Prog-rockers are even trying to do anything new in the current inhospitable music environment. Oh well. Have fun! And thanks for the letters! Mark McCarron-Fraser To Mark: Thanks for your comments! I am sorry for the passage about what "many felt" about ELP, and in fact did regret it as soon as it was sent. My reason for including it was to attempt not to be too positive (it may be a major hinder for getting a review printed if it seems like a commercial from the record company) and at the same time telling those readers with some knowledge of rock's mythology (where ELP is seen as dinosaurs wasting talent and electricity) that this new CD has a different approach and may be well worth buying! However, there is still hope! I faxed the paper and asked them to wait with their printing because of the delayed release date. And as some of the song titles have been changed I'll write an updated review and be more positive about what has been "felt" about the group! And I very much agree with you that < ELP are still light years ahead of most of contemporary rock music. Hip-hop? Rap? Subject: RE: ELP Digest V4 #14 To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com >From: Philip Rauch >Date: Fri, 19 Aug 1994 14:52:43 -0400 >To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com >Subject: KE9 Sheet Music > >About 12 years ago while in college, I paid $100 to some girl >who was a classical music major to transcribe >KE9 1st Impression, Parts 1&2 (BSS version, not WBMFTTSTNE >which is in a different key). Having >taken piano lessons for a few years I attempted to muddle >through it but gave up pretty quickly. If >I can dig it up, I'd be glad to send copies to all interested >parties (now, where to look?) > >I'll be there, I'll be there, I will be there!!!! > >-Phil > >[ Editor's note: Count me in! Please let us (ELP Digest readers) all know > how to get copies! I'm sure many of us will be interested! - John - ] I would very interested in a copy of the transcription of KE9 - 1st impression! If a list of interested people is being compiled, please add my name to it. I also have recently finished revising a transcription of KE9 - 2nd impression I received from Daniel Barrett (if I remember correctly?). Although the original transcription was good, it was not entirely accurate and I have been correcting it. I have also completed a transcription of Barrellhouse Shakedown from Works 2 and have 4 of the 7 parts of Tarkus completed. It would be great if we could combine our efforts to produce a complete collection of these transcriptions to share. I am planning to do more transcriptions and would be happy to contribute to such a noble enterprise. Let me know if there is any interest . . . - Brent Wood ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Sep 1994 10:09:23 +0200 From: bjorn-are.davidsen@s.televerket.tele.no To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com (Non Receipt Notification Requested) Subject: Mobile Tarkus I happened to find Mobile Fidelity's Tarkus in a record shop in Oslo some days ago and couldn't resist the temptation! As far as I can gather (from my stereo rack which is not exactly the best in the world) the sound is far superior to Victory's remastering, especially on the Tarkus piece itself! I really noticed a warmer and deeper sound with some instrumental nuances (or what it is called) I hadn't noticed earlier!. Of course, it may be just a psychological effect after having spent a bit money on it, but I do think it is worth the buying! Anyone else having comments? (Please do not disillusion me..) Bjorn Are ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 21:57:01 -0400 From: Daniel Barrett To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com Cc: JJWARREN@ualr.edu Subject: Re: Tarkus on CD "James J. Warren" asks: > -Can anyone tell me if the Mobile Fidelity Gold CD of _Tarkus_ is worth the >extra money compared to just buying the Victory silver CD rerelease? >Is it that much better? Which to buy? What to do? I compared the MFSL and original Atlantic CD's in a blind listening test, and the MFSL is very noticeably better. I have not heard the Victory version. Dan //////////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ | Dan Barrett -- Computer Science Dept, University of MA, Amherst, MA 01003 | | http://zoo.cs.umass.edu/~barrett/public.html -- barrett@cs.umass.edu | \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\///////////////////////////////////// ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Sep 1994 23:13:54 -0700 From: nat@kesco.com To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com Subject: Asia in Asia Date: Mon, 12 Sep 94 02:08:49 EST I have a question for all Digesters.. Does anyone have or know where I can get my hands on a video copy of Asia in Asia? I really can't offer much except my grattitude and perhaps a copy of the Black Moon Cd single (as noted in the last issue of the digest). Two versions of Black Moon (CD and Single versions) and the Emerson Piano Piece "Blade of Grass". If so please contact me...any help in locating this video would be appriciated. Thank you in Advance Nat Nat@Kesco.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 94 09:30 CDT From: Janell Duxbury Subject: Re: ELP Digest V4 #14 To: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com In the last issue of ELP Digest, there was a message to ELP fans where Alex Rubli wanted to know what happened to Triumvirat. From what I've read on Usenet News alt.music.progressive, one of them died (in an accident?). Jurgen Fritz is in a keyboard duo named Millenium whose 1991 album DREAMS OF AMADEUS (CBS) was based on Mozart themes. His co-partner is Ralf Hildenbeutel. If anyone has a copy of this album, please contact me. Bye, Janell Duxbury ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 94 17:18 CDT From: doug@tellabs.com (Doug David) To: j.arnold@bull.com Subject: Tarkus.mid Someone posted a Tarkus midi file on another group. Anybody who wants it can send a request to me. Actually, I have not had the time to check out how good it is. How about if I test it out, and if it's worth the trouble, I'll let everyone know. Give me a couple days, maybe if it needs it, I can clean it up. Doug ( ) __ ( ) ( ) ) ) ) (( (( / / )) (( )) (( (( ( (( )) ____/ / _____ __ __ _____)) ) (( )) ( (/ ___ / /___ / / / / / /___ /( (( )) (( ) ) )/ /__// //__// / /_/ / //__//)) ))( (_) )(( Doug David (( /_____/ /____/ /_____/ /___ /(( (( ) (_)) doug@tellabs.com ))__________________________// )) ))( ( ( /__________________________/ ( ( ( ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 19:29:04 -0600 From: rbean@wppost.depaul.edu To: arnold@cyclades.ma30.bull.com Subject: ELP Digest V4 #14 -Reply John: I would like to comment on the review of Greg Lake's first solo album which is now available on CD (I have it on CD myself and am hoping his 2nd solo album, "Manouvers", will also be out on CD in the near future). First of all, I am not a big fan of reviews of any kind (music, film, food, etc.) because one person's thoughts should not sway another person. If reviews become a part of this digest, so be it, but I hope other things such as announcements of concerts, albums, etc. are the main topics on the digest. Secondly, I also like the song "Let Me Love You Once". In fact, it is my favorite song (for personal reasons) on the album. The reviewer's comment of "really terrible" is his opinion, but certainly not mine. The album is more mainstream rock-oriented than ELP, but a nice change-of-pace. IMHO, song for song, "Manouvers" is better than the first solo album, but when will it be on CD??? Thanks for a great digest, John, and keep up the good work!! Rick Bean rbean@wppost.depaul.edu ------------------------------ From: Maureen@eworld.com To: j.arnold@ma30.bull.com Date: Tue, 13 Sep 94 23:18:18 PDT Subject: Re: KE9 Sheet Music >From Digest 4/14: PR> About 12 years ago while in college, I paid $100 to some girl who PR> was a classical music major to transcribe KE9 1st Impression, PR> Parts 1&2 (BSS version, not WBMFTTSTNE which is in a PR> different key). ...If I can dig it up, I'd be glad to send copies to all PR> interested parties (now, where to look?) I would LOVE to have a copy of this! Have you found it yet??? :-) Sla/n, Mo! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 09:08:36 -0400 (EDT) From: CRAIGU@delphi.com Subject: For submission to the ELP Digest The following is a list of twelve songs that Keith Emerson played on a European radio show in September of 1973 called "My Top Twelve". They are/were (according to the title of the show), Keith's twelve favorite tunes. For those of you who don't have the tape, I listed the records he played. Forgive any spelling errors as I am unfamiliar with many of these artists. 1. On The Rebound Floyd Kramer 2. Little Rock Getaway Bob Crosby Orchestra 3. Rock Candy Jack McDuff 4. Play Piano, Play Freidrich Gulda 5. Spotted Cow Steeley Span 6. Rootie Tootie Thelonias Monk 7. Lumpy Gravy Frank Zappa 8. October Harvest Festival Respegi 9. Yesterday George Shearing 10. Sonata in D Major Well Tempered Synthesizer (Walter Carlos) 11. Foam For The Bearded Lady Nucleus 12. Stealing Leo Kottke ---------------------- craigu@delphi.com craigu@odyssey.ody.com ------------------------------ Digest, mailing address, and administrative stuff to: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com ==\ => the same for now ELP-related info that you / want to put in the digest to: J.Arnold@ma30.bull.com =/ Back issues are available from the World Wide Web ELP Home Page: URL: http:/bliss.berkeley.edu/elp/ Back issues are also available via anonymous ftp: ftp site: ftp.uwp.edu user name: anonymous password: provide a full email address path: /pub/music/lists/elp/digests/1991/elp-digest-1.* /pub/music/lists/elp/digests/1992/elp-digest-2.* /pub/music/lists/elp/digests/1993/elp-digest-3.* /pub/music/lists/elp/digests/1994/elp-digest-4.* Note: The opinions, information, etc. contained in this digest are those of the original message sender listed in each message below. 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