ELP Digest Thursday, 24 October 1996 Volume 6 : Issue 25 The "And I Thought They'd Come In On Our Side" Edition Today's Topics: Re: Impressions New Rhino BSS CD BSS re reissue Knife Edge Lyrics Re: Covers, FFTCM elp Rhino releases Keith's "Close To Home" page Shocks Trevor Rabin & ELP together? End of Show Music Cozy Powell doing today Re: ELP Digest #22 (absence of "big Moog") RE: ELP Digest V6 #22 (generation gap) B.S.S.'s cover Review of Hartford Show Re: ELP Digest V6 #22 (show review) ELP in Cleveland Europe Please! Tarkus question, Nice-BBC ELP / JETHRO TULL, CLARKSTON, MI 9/5/96 9/7/96 ELP / TULL CONCERT ELP Digest (Camden show) Tinley Park, Ill., Sat. 7 Sep. ELP in Cincy ELP\Tull in Mpls Prelude ======= Hi. This issue is a bit of hodge-podge. So, I'll apologize if it seems a bit rougher around the edges that usual. I've got a huge backlog (thanks to all of you who wrote up your thoughts on the tour) still. But, we'll work our way through it slowly but surely. Since the tour is over now, I've dispensed with the "Spoilers" warnings. Now, the concert reviews are just here for the reading. - John - ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:12:39 -0700 From: whetmore Subject: Re: Impressions Dear John, Please put this message in the next Digest: The second issue of 'Impressions' is due out end of this week. It will feature an exclusive interview with Greg Lake and is a longer issue than the first issue. This is how to subscribe to Impressions: Three issues cost: UK - 12 Pounds (UK) Rest of the World - 15 Pounds (UK) We also accept payment in US $$ - price $28 - cash only. All cheques need to be drawn on a UK bank and NOT a US bank. I've had to return loads of cheques because our bank can only accept cheques drawn on a UK bank for small amounts. Address: Impressions, 28 Stonebanks, Manor Road, Walton-on-Thames, Surrey KT12 2QE, ENGLAND. In the third issue of 'Impressions' - due out beg. of 1997 - there will be an exclusive interview with Carl Palmer and extensive tour reports from U.S.A. and Japan. If any of you would like your tour review published in 'Impressions', please contact me - I would love to hear from you!! Please note that as from Thursday 12th September, our new E-mail address will be:- estazz99@intonet.co.uk Liv G. Whetmore Editor 'Impressions' ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:51:44 -0400 (EDT) From: J-P Palmentier To: ELP Digest Subject: New Rhino BSS CD Hi John! Just to let everybody know! I picked up a copy of the new Rhino remastered Brain Salad Surgery CD with the holographic cover for $16.99 CDN. The inside liner notes don't contain any of the original artwork or lyrics, just the story about the Giger cover and photos from the meeting with Giger. There is one extra track. It's a 15 minute interview with ELP about the recording of the album and more on the cover controversy. The woman on the inside was Giger's wife and there was and is a penis which later became a "a shaft of light". The penis is on this cover as well as the Victory fold out cover CD. It's too bad they did't include the orignal photos and lyrics but what the hey. It matchs up nicely with the Victory folding cover edition of the album which has all the orginal material in it. Thanks all for listening! Regards, J-P ------------------------------ From: Park Chin Date: Tue, 27 Aug 96 00:20:07 -700 To: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com Subject: BSS re reissue Hi John, I'm still recovering from last week's fabulous show. I do hope that they do another tour soon with a longer show. I feel greedy saying that. On the weekend I went off to my local music store here in Canada to find that the Rhino reissue of BSS is out. I, like Shawn who wrote a few issues ago also bought it. The essay is great with a lot of good information and pictures that I had never seen of H.R. Giger and ELP in his studio. The hologram is great and the overlay is perfect. The interview at the end of the CD is very good, although it is unbalanced in that there is not equal representation of the three . Greg seems to speak less. It is obvious that Carl is interviewed over the phone. Also it is great that the individual parts of Karn Evil 9 are as seperate tracks. The sound quality is of course superb. All in all a good buy for your money. Diane Chin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:03:58 -0400 From: Sarah <101776.3062@compuserve.com> Subject: Knife Edge Lyrics To: arnold Following up past postings, I've always thought it was "Fever kings / On silver wings / Fly beyond reason..." Alliterative, you see. I don't buy the "King's Own" explanation I'm afraid, Brit tho I am...Keep up the good work. [ Editor's Note: The Greg Lake Web Site (http://www.dynrec.com/lake) includes a decent selection of Greg's lyrics. And, since these are from Greg himself, I would imagine that they are quite accurate! - John - ] ------------------------------ Date: 27 Aug 96 13:48:48 EDT From: "Plotczyk, Steve" To: John Arnold Subject: Re: Covers, FFTCM Covers In ELP Digest Volume 6 Issue 16 Steve Lottich wrote (concerning Joan Osborne's version of "Man In The Long Black Coat"): >Technically, Joan Osborne didn't cover an ELP song, >both artists covered a Bob Dylan song. This brings out a good point. Legally, Bob Dylan gets the credit (read royalties) for any version of his song but more important to the musical aspect of the situation is whether Joan Osborne was inspired by ELP's version or Bob Dylan's original version. This is what I was getting at in my original post about it in ELP Digest Volume 6 Issue 5. Another example of this situation is Alex Masi's version of Toccata as described by Doug David in ELP Digest Volume 3 Issue 3. Clearly the Masi arrangement of Carl Palmer's drum movement marks Masi's version as definitely being inspired by ELP. Also, Kazuhito Yamoshita's adaption of Pictures At An Exhibition to classical guitar has been described as "bizarre". One wonders what role ELP might have played in influencing that version. Steve Plotczyk FFTCM David Terralavoro asked me to provide the following information to the ELP digest subscribers: INSTRUCTIONS FOR ORDERING ELP "FANZINE FOR THE COMMON MAN" FANZINE AND THE NEWSLETTER Please read these instructions carefully. The most common mistakes people make are my address and who to write the check out to. Checks must be made out to my name "David Terralavoro" and my proper address is listed at the bottom of this post. TO ORDER THE FANZINE - The fanzine is a booklet anywhere from 14 - 26 pages long filled with ELP/solo/related bands news, articles written by myself or from readers, discographies, English translated interviews from foreign countries and rare photos. Issue # 1,2 & 3 US/Canada $2.00 each issue, overseas $3.00 each issue Issue # 4 (revised in 1994 and bigger) -US/Canada -$3.50 , overseas $4.50 Issue # 5 - 12 -US/Canada $3.00 each issue, overseas $4.00 each issue Issue # 13 - 15 -US/Canada $3.50 each issue, overseas $4.50 each issue Issue # 16 due October 1996 -US/Canada $3.50, overseas $4.50 DO NOT ORDER ISSUE # 17 AS I DO NOT KNOW WHEN THAT WILL BE RELEASED. I WILL ANNOUNCE IT IN A NEWSLETTER. On a 10 or more order purchase deduct $2.00 NEWSLETTERS - All back copies from 1993 - May 1996 -US/Canada $3.00 total cost, overseas $4.00 total cost. To receive future newsletters: US - Send a self addressed stamped envelope size 9 1/2 X 4 1/2 (Do not use those tiny address labels as your return address!!! Canada/Overseas - Send a self addressed envelope size 9 1/2 X 4 1/2 and an International Reply Coupon. DO NOT SEND MORE THAN 3 ENVELOPES FOR THE YEAR PLEASE. Kindly PRINT YOUR NAME. PAYMENT: US - check, money order or cash (conceal it well) A postal money order will gaurantee your order in the mail the same day. Check must be written out to my name "David Terralavoro" only please. Canada/overseas - Canadians can send a postal money order in "US Dollars" or any check in US Dollars. OVERSEAS - International Money order, US cash sent (concealed) registered mail only. CHECKS MUST BE WRITTEN OUT TO MY NAME "David Terralavoro". FURTHER QUESTIONS? Please send a self addressed stamped envelope and I will write to you. Sorry no phone calls as all these calls are overpowering me. I hope someday to get a modem for my computer, until then please write. My proper address: David Terralavoro 43 Spring Street Wappinger Falls, NY 12590 U S A All the best, David Terralavoro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:52:16 -0700 From: charles scott To: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com Subject: elp Rhino releases I can confirm the ELP Rhino catalog in stores, including a "Best of ELP". The Brain Salad Surgery does have the holo cover which changes the outside Geiger to the inside when you turn it up & down...very nice effect, much better than their Iron Butterfly cover. The bonus track is an interview with ELP - "The Making of Brain Salad Surgery" You probably already know all this, but what the? Very unhappy that the ELP tour is once again primarily focused in the North and I will miss them. Oh, well..there were all those good years, good shows. Regards Charles Scott ------------------------------ From: "A. Radder" To: "'John Arnold'" Subject: Keith's "Close To Home" page Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:26:15 -0400 Just thought I'd let all of you ELP nuts know something kind of nice: I e-mailed Richard Stellar (revono9@annex.com) about Keith's web site, and asked him if he could ask Keith a question for me, since he's got to be in contact with Keith to be producing the site in the first place. Richard replied to my email saying that he was going to create a page on the site just for questions like mine, and would publish my question and Keith's answer! This is a wonderful thing, and I hope that other KE fans find this unique resource useful. BTW, Richard also says there are plans to make Close To Home a multimedia experience, with ShockWave animation, audio, video, you name it. Coolness. Please don't overwhelm Mr. Stellar with your requests for features, though. I've had to supress some excitement so that I didn't email the poor guy 10 times in one day. Remember, if you annoy someone, chances are they won't give you what you want. As the adage goes, you get more flies with honey than you do with vinegar :-) Roll Up! Roll Up! See the Show! -aaron ------------------------------ From: Bjorn-Are.Davidsen@s.prosjekt98.telenor.no Date: 29 Aug 1996 07:23:45 Z To: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com Subject: Shocks BTW - check the Trevor Rabin info on http://www.wilmington.net/yes/ft.html A few eyes bulged out of my head when noticing what's being said here! [ Editor's Note: And, if you don't have a browser handy, the contents of this URL appear in the next post of this Digest.... - John - ] Bjo/rn Are --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bjorn-Are.Davidsen@s.prosjekt98.telenor.no ------------------------------------------------------------------- The Weaver in the Web that he made - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Our minds were moving parallell, Because they never met ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 07:41:15 -0400 To: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com From: karen1@chelsea.ios.com (KarenStober) Subject: Trevor Rabin & ELP together? Hi John, Here's something, Trev & Greg working together on the next ELP album???!!! Notes From The Edge is the Internet Yes Newsletter. Karen Elizabeth Stober >From: Nfte >Subject: Notes From The Edge #161 >=> TREVOR RABIN AT THE MOVIES > ========================== > > From Tom Lorenz (tclorenz@voicenet.com) > Trevor is currently working "fourteen hours a day, seven days a week" on the soundtrack to Steven Seagal's next film, "The Glimmer Man". An October release date is planned for the film, but no word on a release date for the soundtrack. Speaking of soundtracks, the mystery of Trevor's involvement in the movie "Twister" has finally been solved. His playing is featured throughout the movie's score, usually on top of a large orchestra. Some of his parts were written out, others were improvised, but his parts can be heard throughout the film. "Twister" is scheduled for home video release on October 1 in both letterbox and pan & scan formats. Because of the frantic pace he is keeping these days, Trevor had to decline an offer by Emerson, Lake and Palmer to record with them on their next album. As previously reported, Trevor's first three solo albums have been remastered and will be released on One Way Records later this year. Also, a domestic release of a Rabbitt anthology is planned for the near future. ------------------------------ From: efore@ctonline.net Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 22:21:54 +0000 To: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com Subject: End of Show Music Can anyone give me any information on the canned music that is played at the very end of ELP's live shows? They have been using this since at least the mid 70's, and I can't seem to get any info on it. I suppose it could be an Emerson original. P.S. The Hartford show on 8.25 was great, with ELP putting in a very muscular performance. Greg's voice was especially good. It was a shame seeing these guys relegated to opening act status, with sound and lights not being up to par. I also missed the modular moog, but that's just me. These guys will always be in a class by themselves. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 20:01:57 +0200 (MET DST) To: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com From: Ole-Johan Wilfred Backman Subject: Cozy Powell doing today Cozy's latest work: Except for some shows with Black Sabbath for the labum 'Forbidden' He has joined Splinter Group, featuring Neil Murray, Bass - Nigel Watson, Guitar/Vocals and THE Peter Green, Guitar They should release an album next year. They play various blues festiavls in Europe, countries like Norway, Germany, UK and some others. Gig in US as well, was played in June (or was it July) Best Regards Ole-Johan ------ Editor Of The Gary Moore Electronic Fanzine 'GAZ' E-mail: gaz@sn.no WWW-Page: http://home.sn.no/~gaz/ ----------------- ------------------------------ From: Nicki Robson To: "'John Arnold'" Subject: Re: ELP Digest #22 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 11:54:55 +0100 Hi John So far I've only had chance to skim through the latest digest, I noticed in the concert review by Frank Sonnenberg a comment about the absence of 'the big Moog'. In a small press magazine (possibly called Progress or Forum or something - it changes frequently) run by Tiz Hay here in the UK it was stated that following Keith's arm operation he was selling a lot of his keyboards and vowing never to play again. If this is true it could explain the absence of the Moog? Does anybody know? Nicki [ Editor's Note: The talk that Keith wasn't going to play again ean rampant shortly after his arm operation which was quite some time ago. As those of us who saw Keith on tour over the past few months can attest, Keith's playing is still in top form. I'm pretty sure that the "big Moog" didn't appear on the current tour due to the need/desire to have a simpler setup with less to pack/unpack each night. And, with sampler technology as it is today, many of the Moog sounds could be readily accessible from samples. - John - ] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 96 13:11:46 EST From: "LYONSRM1" To: "A. Radder" , arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com Subject: RE: ELP Digest V6 #22 A little bridge in the generation gap? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >What you want, I think, is a Keith Emerson Unplugged show that might happen>, not an ELP show. I am a huge fan of Keith, and being >a keyboard player, I am constantly inspired by his playing, even from 25 >years ago. If I hear one more unplugged, I'm gonna hurl! Keith started out unplugged, I hope he ends that way ( piano only ). +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Unfortunately for fans of Keith's piano talents (and I am one of those = >too), he can't really do too much on piano with the old ELP songs, and = I recently heard a .mid file of Karn Evil 9 "3rd" impression. It was performed entirely on acoustic piano! Sounded great! ** BTW after buying all those albums, CD's, concert tickets and ** sheet music books of ELP, do you think I should have to pay ** a $10 royalty for a MIDI file? I can feel the flames rising. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >I personally had a blast when Keith brought out the ribbon controller = >(although I wish he would have kept it out longer) and the "Hammond = >Abuse" bit was great to see because I've never been to an ELP show = >before because I wasn't even born when he used to do this bit on stage = >in the 70's. See, when I first saw them in '76 ( I was 13 ), he used the ribbon in Hoedown to play and improvise what was on the album. And then in Tarkus he used it for the battle scene, and to top it off, shot flaming rockets out of it!!!! So, now he just wipes his ass with it and puts it down? Kinda dissapointing. Still a big fan, Russ L +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:04:12 -0400 From: Claude Girard To: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com Subject: B.S.S.'s cover "Just a "quicky"" I recently looked at the new Rhino release of B.S.Surgery. It has a nice two-way image when you tilt the CD box. You can either see the original LP cover or the liner art (with the "creature"). There is something missing, something that corroborates the alledged meaning of BBS....yes: a phallic symbol (is that politically correct or what!). This "symbol" was quite obvious on the Victory release but was blurred out on the original LP cover and is not on the Rhino re-edition So you people...hold on to that Victory "jewel box". :-) Claude Reader of fine digests(ELP, ET and Reader's Digest where they still can't beleive that communism is dead!). ------------------------------ Subject: Review of Hartford Show To: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com Date: 96-08-28 22:43:34 EDT From: FeMan@aol.com Sorry this has taken so long...... but here we go.... After five long years, Dad made good on his promise to take his girls to see Emerson, Lake & Palmer. We began to mark our territory in the parking lot with the raising of our 30 ft. pirate flag and "Pirates" blasting over the stereo. Friends, old and new, began to assemble to exchange food, wine, pictures, memories and life long dreams of the greatest group of musicians ever to assemble on the face of this earth. Time flew by rapidly and then the mad eyed Captain roared... CUT FREE THE LINES AND SQUARE THE YARDS ....GET THE BLACK FLAG STOWED AWAY....it was SHOW TIME!!!!! We marched the girls in and sat them down in the 8th row center seats for their 8th birthday and their first concert. (I didn't get to see ELP for my birthday!) The guys opened with Hoedown and Natalie loved Keith marching around the stage with his ribbon controller.....later she commented "Hey, Dad...Keith rubbed it on his Butt!!!" They followed up with Touch & Go and Knifes Edge and Carissa loved the way that Greg was singing....... Keith played a new piece of music dedicated to the late Kevin Gilbert. Greg then played "Still..you turn me on". Dad got all choked up when Tarkus come on and broke into the Hut of Baba Yaga, Great Gates of Kiev and lost it when Lucky Man was played. (Man, I love when Keith triggers the moog during the solo.) Reading the posts and hearing "Fanfare" being played, I knew that the end was inevitable (but Dad knew...'death is life', a surprise was in the wings!). Carl's drum solo was great, but short as was the entire set. He still made Mom's heart throb when Carl took his vest off..... The kids all loved when Keith rode the Hammond during the encore and began stabbing the poor beast as screamed for mercy (or was that Goff Prof and Will crying knowing of additional repair work for tomorrows show???) Several standing ovations occurred during the show and at the end.....As everyone demanded more, Dad and the girls headed out.................. As a special birthday treat for the twins and for Ashley, Dad reached into his pockets and placed a backstage pass onto everyone's shirt and told them it was party time. After several staging areas.....we were lead to a fenced in court yard, were we were to meet ELP. A small group of approximately two dozen people were present. Soon Keith, Greg and Carl came out to meet their fans and all were extremely cordial. Autographs, questions and pictures were taken and soon just a small group of us were left. My one daughter, Natalie, hung around with Rik and Keith most of the night. Natalie got her first kiss from Keith and hasn't washed her hand since. Keith shared a secret and revealed how much he and the Hammond weighed to Natalie and her response was "Gee, my Dad weighs a lot more than that!!!" Keith laughed. Carissa had a little ring for Greg in her pocket and gave it to him. Greg said it was too small for him to wear but he would put it on his necklace later. However, her sweet persistence convinced him to let her help him put it on right then. The expression on Greg's face was priceless. These girls are ONLY 8 YEARS OLD! Carl asked my oldest daughter Ashley were all the great ELP t-shirts came from.....she said my Dad. Carl could not believe that the shirts were from the 1977 Works Tour. We also had some great laughs about the 1992 Black Moon show at Waterloo Village in Stanhope, NJ.(Known to most of us as Waterlog.) When Keith found out that it was Natalie's and Carissa's birthday, he broke out his portable Korg unit and played Happy Birthday to the girls and let them play with the keyboard. Got some memorable pictures of all of them together. There is no doubt in my mind, that Ashley, Natalie and Carissa stole ELP's hearts backstage. I finally gave Will his Papa Canio's and Three Sister's homemade wine to try. I'm looking forward to his review. Everyone during our tail gate party really enjoyed it. After 25 years, Dad finally got his picture taken with the guys and we also got a beautiful family picture to cherish forever. Thank you Will, Keith, Greg and Carl for a wonderful, memorable evening. One we will never forget. Hope to see you all again soon. Ken, Isabel, Ashley, Natalie & Carissa Galgano ------------------------------ From: FORCHHEIMERE@ujafedny.org Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 11:37:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: ELP Digest V6 #22 (show review) To: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com Had the pleasure of seeing ELP/Tull at the Sony-Blockbuster Entertainment Center on Saturday August 31. The show was terrific as most of the reviews have indicated. The set list was the same as the shows on the tour with the exception that "Lucky Man" was moved from the middle of the set to the encore. It seems to be the first show (maybe the only?) where ELP played an encore. I don't want to repeat the many deserving accolades that have been written so far, except that I found Lake's voice to have "deepened" a bit and makes his vocals much more appealing and moving. Any information about a full blown ELP tour in the states would be appreciated. Elliot ------------------------------ To: Arnold From: Mike Cash/Marshall Industries Date: 4 Sep 96 19:19:25 EDT Subject: ELP in Cleveland John, Last night I saw ELP/Tull at the Nautica Stage here in downtown Cleveland, about 1/2 mile from the R & R Hall of Fame.They were TERRIFIC and kudos to their doctors for getting them ready to tour. Carl was terrific, as always. Greg's voice was clear, strong, and dynamic. He has not sounded this good since E,L, and Powell. His bass playing was great and he and CP were really in sync. The band was TIGHT! Keith was great in the beginning, playing enthusiastically and energetically. He seemed to tire near the end, as he started making the patented keyboard sweeps during "Rondo", but near the end he blew them off. I have never seen him do this. He kept shaking his right wrist the whole night, and while the Hammond was on top of him, you could see he was exhausted, but Keith, ever the veteran touring professional gave his all. This is not a criticism, just a fact. John, you e-mailed me back in July about why they didn't headline, and you said that Keith needed to build up his stamina. I couldn't agree more. The show was sold out, the crowd was enthusiastic and the band gave their all. Here's hoping that they can build back up to doing a full headlining set soon. The set was the same as previously reported,except they saved "Lucky Man" for an encore, which was wise. If you are planning to "see the show " in the next few weeks, stay for TULL. The sound was as good as any concert i have ever attended (over 100), indoors or out, and Anderson puts on a good show. He, too, seemed to tire at the end as the vocals on "Locomotive Breath" didn't compliment what I felt was a tremendous rendition. The same for the finale "Cross-Eyed Mary". But, hey, all of their medical problems appear to be under control and they all sounded better than ever. Mike ------------------------------ From: Bryan Roberts To: ELP DIGEST Subject: Europe Please! Date: Thu, 05 Sep 96 07:35:00 CDT Hi there from London, UK. - A note for the ELP Digest. Reading the latest Digest editions and concert reviews has been great fun - light years away from the fabled ELP-Negative Press of the 70's here in England - only the fans really know the score... Anyhow, along with approximately 64 million other people in the UK, reading the reviews is a bit like having an 'out-of-body' experience as there are no apparent plans for ELP to tour in Europe. The Albert Hall experience was a great time for all fans here and we got the feeling that the band got a real 'buzz' from performing once more for their home crowd. I appeal to anyone who has influence to lobby ELP management to tour Europe again - the band is surely the most missed of all time over here. It would be great to see a show on the same scale as those of the old days ( I remember seeing them in Brussels in the early seventies - though temporarilly deafened I was left with a lasting impression of the power of the 'Stage Show' - they were truly the best showmen of the day - maybe they still are?). Jethro Tull is a great band, but in Europe they have always been 'Niche Players' and a couple of notches down from ELP in the Rock Megashow league - I'm a great fan of both bands though and reckon I may just have to move to the USA as I need more than one 'ELP-fix' every fifteen years or so. The recent albums have been somewhat so-so, but 'Hot seat' ain't too bad if you turn up the wick and dim the lights. I do think though that the world still awaits an ELP musical renaissance in the form of (dare I say it) a CONCEPT (There, I said it...) album with a few pieces that last more than three minutes. The digest is great - keep up the good work. Regards. Bryan Roberts, London, UK. ------------------------------ To: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com From: doug hayes Subject: Tarkus question, Nice-BBC Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 14:53:30 +0000 Firstly, does anyone know what is being said at the very end of Are You Ready Eddy?, right before all the laughter? I have always wondered what was so funny. Any attempt to figure it out on my part has resulted in nonsense: amochase? I hope it doesn't turn out to be embarrassingly obvious. Secondly, I was browsing through CDNow's catalog recently, on the way to performing my ritual search for Steeleye Span's best and impossible to find album Commoner's Crown (Joy! They actually have it.), when I came across The Nice, America: The BBC Sessions. Having recently read a very informative and favorable review of this CD in digest V6 #18, I blinked away tears, and controlled my shaking hands (admittedly caused by the availability of Commoner's Crown) long enough to order them both. The Nice CD was on sale for $12.97 and arrived about three days later - I'm still awaiting the other. Other than sharing the fact that the Nice CD is now easily available from CDNow (there is a link from the ELP homepage), I thought I would add a few bits of information for those who haven't decided whether they want it or not. Most important for me was the revelation of what exactly the "intrusive talking" was all about. Unfortunately, it isn't just some slightly annoying jibber-jabber from the audience as I had hoped, but rather a very loud and obnoxious disco-DJ-type announcer introducing the band and a few songs. There are a few abrupt edits that I ended up being thankful for as they seemed to keep aforementioned announcer's intrusions to an absolute minimum. The sound quality at times made me wonder if the recordings were made with a microphone in front of a radio, but to be fair they weren't bad considering they were made almost thirty years ago and probably were never intended to be more than archival. My overall advice is: if you are interested in the Nice and don't have their studio albums, get them first; and if you are deeply into the Nice and want to hear some live recordings along with a few unreleased tunes, buy this CD right away. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 10:42:19 -0400 From: Michael Beck To: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com Subject: ELP / JETHRO TULL, CLARKSTON, MI 9/5/96 Dateline: September 5, 1996, Pine Knob Music Theater, Clarkston, MI The concert event of the year has come and gone! ELP started promptly to a partially filled pavilion with a stirring rendition of "Hoedown". The venue quickly filled up with enthusiastic fans as the group continued to rip through "Touch and Go" and "Knife Edge". The show varied from early reports in that the sound mix was very good (no overbearing bass drums) and that an encore was played (Lucky Man). The drum solo was brief but intense and Lake's voice was the best I=92ve ever heard (from him). Emerson played with his usual brilliance but the solo piece (Hammer it Out) fell a little flat in my opinion. Other than that, a great show as expected (total time: 65 minutes)! The big surprise, for me, was Jethro Tull. Their performance was outstanding! Ian Anderson was in fine form and the performance was tight, musical, and very entertaining. The crowd in Michigan was extremely enthusiastic toward both groups and gave standing O's on nearly every song. I can't wait until the next time around for these two fantastic groups! ------------------------------ From: SNOMONUT@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:50:27 -0400 To: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com Subject: 9/7/96 ELP / TULL CONCERT JUST A FEW NOTES FROM SATURDAY NIGHTS CONCERT: ELP SOUND MIX WAS BETTER THAN PREVIOUS REPORTS, BUT STILL NOT TOTALLY UP TO SNUFF! THE ENERGY ELP PROVIDED SURPRISED MANY OF THE TULL FANS, IN FACT STANDING OVATIONS FOR ELP OUTNUMBRED TULL 2 TO 1! ELP DID AN ENCORE....LUCKY MAN. ALL SEATS AT THE WORLD MUSIC THEATRE WERE FULL AND ABOUT HALF THE LAWN SEATS..... A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT FROM THE PREVIOUS TOUR CARL'S ENERGY WAS MUCH IMPROVED! GREG'S VOICE WAS MUCH BETTER THAN THE PREVIOUS TOUR! THE SOUND SYSTEM FOR TULL BLEW AWAY THE ELP SYSTEM.....TWO HEADLINE ACTS SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE EQUAL SOUND CAPABILITIES! IAN ANDERSON HAS LOST NOTHING IN HIS FLUTE PLAYING, HOWEVER, HIS VOICE IS SHOT !!! TULL AS A BAND WAS VERY TIGHT AND ALSO ENERGIZED. A REALLY GOOD SHOW TOO! BRING ON A NEW GOOD ALBUM FOLLOWED BY A TOUR......INTEREST IN ELP HAS NOT BEEN THIS GOOD SINCE THE LATE 70's! ------------------------------ From: "Haines, Susan M." To: "'John Arnold (ELP Digest)'" Subject: ELP Digest (Camden show) Date: Mon, 09 Sep 96 13:04:00 PDT I attended the ELP/Tull concert, in Camden's E Centre on Aug. 31st. I went with three friends and we sat in the forth row.. I must say that it was the best concert I have attended!!! I had never heard Jethro Tull's music before, so I had gone just for ELP. ELP was wonderful, and the fact that Tull was also good was an added bonus! I would have LOVED for them to have done a longer set, but I am happy to have been there at all. If/when they tour by themselves again--I'm there!! Suzi Haines simbalion@AOL.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 23:41:05 -0500 To: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com From: gonigam@skyenet.net (David A. Gonigam) Subject: Tinley Park, Ill., Sat. 7 Sep. Thought the Digest readership might be interested in how the tour has evolved now that it's making its way through the Midwest. Having "seen the show" at the World Music Theater in Tinley Park, Illinois on Saturday 7 September, I'd say two things stand out compared to the postings I've read about the earlier gigs (which I held off reading till after I saw the Saturday concert). First, this one did not start early, nor did it even start on time. It started ten minutes late. (Just as well for me; as it was, I heard, but did not see, "Hoedown.") Second, the boos from the first few days of the tour have been acknowledged, and there's now an encore. No, the performance time is still about an hour; they just moved "Lucky Man" from the middle of the set down to the very end, after "Fanfare/Rondo." The audience was receptive. Emerson looks none the worse for wear, although as he warned in an interview I read in an earlier Digest, he did put sequencers to limited use. But I emphasize the word "limited;" I doubt there were very many other people who noticed, the instances was so few and far between. Other points: The audio mix was mediocre, but not as terrible as was apparently the case earlier in the tour. There was only one style of t-shirt available with both ELP and Tull on it, and it was in extremely short supply; among all the booths, only five were left by the end of intermission, and my girlfriend got one of them. I'm not a big Tull fan (I own "Aqualung" and the "Classic Case" album of orchestral arrangements, but that's it), but I have a much better appreciation now that I've seen them in the flesh, even if Ian Anderson's not in the best of health. He's still "sitting on the park bench" occasionally as he was earlier in the tour, and he's playing the flute with both feet firmly planted on the stage. And whatever the problem is, he's still cupping his right hand to his ear frequently; you'd think the technicians would have this stuff figured out after two weeks. Tull's performance ran just under 90 minutes. All in all, a satisfying experience, but I'm still waiting for a combined ELP/Yes tour in which the bands perform one or two pieces together! Regards, Dave Gonigam South Bend, Indiana ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:46:40 -0400 To: John Arnold From: David Wilson-Holmes Subject: ELP in Cincy What is it that has and has not been said so far regarding the current tour,just about everythings been covered it would seem by all reports. So therefore I will not turn this into another longwinded reviewed account of there appearence at the Riverbend in Cincy, OH. I am not to embark on any detractions regarding their performance( especially after shear devotion had brought me half way round the world for the event). They received a very warm welcome on the start of Hoedown and the audience appreciation did not wane throughout culminating in a full house standing ovation including chantings of "ELP" after the Fanfare/Rondo medley,which in turn brought them back on stage to do Lucky Man (which it seemed they had neglected to do before hand. My only regret was not having the chance to see the guys backstage to personally thank them. So I do hope they read the digest so at least they will see this note. Biased,I think not especially after having witnessed personally a small proportion of the thousands of devotees of this very fine group. So to Keith Emerson, Greg Lake, Carl Palmer and to the rest of their entourage, whom make there shows possible. Thank you from us all! Regards, David Wilson-Holmes ------------------------------ From: KLJMD@delphi.com Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 00:40:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: ELP\Tull in Mpls To: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com A great show by ELP and Tull tonight at Northrup Auditorium, even without the smoke detectors/fire alarm going off like it did three years ago to spice up Tarkus. Keith was massaging his arm after the first few numbers, but he didn't slow down a bit and continued to smoke on the keyboards. Carl didn't show a bit that he's been through Carpal Tunnel surgery. He's as great as ever. And as others have mentioned, Greg's voice has improved since the last tour. He seems a bit slimmer. Is he going to be running marathons with the others, now? I would like to know, what do I need to do to get invited backstage like others who write in have been able to do? Do I need to offer a free surgical procedure to Greg, since it sounds like he's been spared the knife so far? I hadn't seen Jethro Tull before, but they also put on a great show. Ian is still talking about the "bahstuhds" with hair. I found out what he was talking about when he took off his hat. Great work with the Digest! Keep it up! Kirk Jacobson, M.D. ------------------------------ Digest, mailing address, and administrative stuff to: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com | +=> The same for now... ELP-related info that you | want to put in the digest to: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com Back issues are available from the World Wide Web ELP Home Page: URL: http://bliss.berkeley.edu/elp/ Note: The opinions, information, etc. contained in this digest are those of the original message sender listed in each message. They are not necessarily those of the mailing list/digest administrator or those of any institution through whose computers/networks this mail flows. Unless otherwise noted, the individual authors of each entry in the Digest are the copyright holders of that entry. 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