ELP Digest Monday, 29 September 1997 Volume 7 : Issue 18 The "Have Your Leaves All Turned To Brown" Edition Today's Topics: Revised dates for Costa Rica, Mexico, Peru Rocking The Classics ELP on laserdisc From the Beginning - Greg Lake Retrospective ELP in Rio de Janeiro ELP on German TV, 8/21 ELP on German TV, 9/12 Iron Man on British TV Lyrics wanted: The Hut of Baba yaga Pictures At An Exhibition Symphony Concerts re: ELP Digest V7 #13 Some thoughts about several items ELP Concert Set List GX-1 Rocking The Classics Trying to get California Jam released.... Re: ELP Digest V7 #14 (Edward Maccan's band) ELP - Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ELP in Germany Prelude ======= Hello again. I'm really dredging out some of the backlog here. (Some of these messages date back to July!) Read on. - John - ------------------------------------------------------------ [ Editor's Note: I received the following update from ELP's management company on Sept. 18. Hope this helps out many of you readers in Costa Rica, Mexico, and Peru who had been wondering about these shows.... "Please update the website with the REVISED SOUTH AMERICAN ITINERARY: OCT: 4 Lima, Peru Muelle Uno 7 San Jose, Costa Rica Teatro Nacional 8 San Jose, Costa Rica Teatro Nacional 10 Monterrey, Mexico Plaza De Toros 11 Mexico City, Mexico Teatro Opera 12 Mexico City, Mexico Teatro Opera" - John - ] ------------------------------ From: Peter Bakel , on 9/8/97 3:12 PM: To: elp-digest-web@reluctant.com Subject: Rocking The Classics Dear Mr. Arnold -- In October of 1996 Oxford University Press published Edward Macan's Rocking the Classics: English Progressive Rock and the Counterculture. An exciting tour through an era of extravagant, mind-bending, and culturally explosive music, Rocking the Classics draws together cultural theory, musicology, and music criticism to reveal how progressive rock served as a vital expression of the counterculture of the late 1960s and 1970s. You can get more detailed information about this groundbreaking book by checking out our site at http://www.oup-usa.org/docs/0195098889.html. Or contact Peter Bakel at pjb@oup-usa.org. Keith Emerson said of Rocking the Classics and Edward Macan: "While there have been thousands of books on every form of music, progressive music as such has gotten a raw deal. Edward Macan has been brave enough to write the quintessential book on a curiously underrepresented form of music--and it's about time." We here at Oxford agree. With the help of your website, anyone interested in progressive rock, from hardcore enthusiasts to fans of any one of the many prog rock bands, can get the real story about this influential and largely misunderstood genre. We would appreciate it if you would inform your visitors about Rocking the Classics by announcing it on your site and posting a link to: http://www.oup-usa.org/docs/0195098889.html Within in next couple of weeks Oxford Paperbacks will have its own page up and running. As soon as it's active we'll gladly reciprocate with a link to your site. Thanks in advance for your help! Sincerely, Pete Bakel ------------------------------ From: The LaserDisc Depot , on 8/23/97 5:34 PM: To: ELP-Digest@reluctant.com Subject: ELP on laserdisc Dear John: Yahoo ! As both a die hard ELP fan and LaserDisc/DVD dealer I received an announcement today from my distributor that Image plans to release ELP on laserdisc...:-) Here are the details: The classic rock group performs one of their electrifying live shows to commemorate their 25th anniversary. Recorded at England's famous Royal Albert Hall. Time: 1 Hr, 28 Mins - 1997 $39.99 U.S. Street Date: 10/22/97.... If anyone would like a copy for $36 U.S. plus shipping please email me at discs@ld-depot.com or visit my site at: http://www.ld-depot.com Cheers ! John Weitner ------------------------------ From: garpal , on 8/10/97 4:52 PM: To: ELP Digest - John Arnold Subject: From the Beginning - Greg Lake Retrospective Hi John! I am either blind or totally out of it, but I haven't seen anybody mention the new Greg Lake Retrospective - From the Beginning on Rhino Records on the ELP Digest. I picked it up about three weeks ago. Very nice CD, massive booklet inside and includes a track "Still" from Peter Sinfield's solo album, which I have just recently also seen available on CD. There are six tracks from Greg's first solo album and two from the second. There is also an acknowledgement of you and the ELP Digest in the Special Thanks to... section. You can check out the track listing at: http://www.rhino.com/search/alinfo.cfm?num=72627 I still have a Japanese import copy of Greg's first solo album available for sale if anyone is interested, email me. Regards, J-P [ Editor's Note: I'm pretty sure that there was mention when this CD was released. But it doesn't hurt to put in a quick reminder. I bought a copy of this over the summer and find it a great chronology of Greg's career. The tracks are presented in chronological order and really fit together well. It shows the ballads, the rockers, etc. A really nice set. - John - ] ------------------------------ From: Rodrigo Werneck , on 8/19/97 8:16 AM: To: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: ELP in Rio de Janeiro Hi John and everybody, ELP played on last Saturday, here in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. The gig was absolutely fantastic, much better than their 1993 shows here, IMHO. I have a rock site, with links and live photos, and I included lots of photos taken during this last ELP gig. If you want to see them, please check them out: http://www.hexanet.com.br/~rwerneck/hrt.htm Just choose "Live pictures"... then ELP, of course ! :-) The set list was exactly as the one they have been playing on this tour, inlcuding "21st Century Schizoid Man", from King Crimson. Carl Palmer played an almost completely acoustic drum set this time, and it was much better this way. His playing was great. On the first song, "Karn Evil 9 - 1st Impression", I thought I was back to the 70's ! I hope you like the pics... All the best, Rodrigo Werneck Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Official Uriah Heep site: http://www.uriah-heep.com/ Will You Welcome Please England's Own Uriah Heep: http://www.en.com/users/dhw Ken Hensley site: http://www.geocities.com/~wonderworld ------------------------------ From: Uwe Hoepfner , on 8/21/97 3:02 PM: To: ELP Digest Subject: ELP on German TV, 8/21 Hey fans, a short comment on the show this morning on German TV. It were excerpts of the Munich concert, June 24th. The pieces were: Take a pebble Lucky man Tarkus/Great gates of Kiev Fanfare/Rondo etc. (except drum solo) which makes around 45 min. The sound is acceptable, sometimes nice and clear, good visual coverage of our three heroes. Bernd Prott (prott@si.zfe.siemens.de) was so kind to send me some news articles concerning the shows in Munich, Kassel, Nuernberg, Amsterdam and Dresden, and i was very pleased that they were all very positive. They all emphasized the high technical skills, the humour, the choice of the material. I'll do a little translation and summary and post it, if you're interested (and anybody else had the same idea). With regards from "Unter den Linden..." Uwe Hoepfner ------------------------------ From: THEGAZZAS@aol.com, on 9/13/97 9:23 AM: To: ELP-digest@reluctant.com Subject: ELP on German TV, 9/12 Last night German TV, Bayerishes Fernsehen broadcast a best of Tollwood Festival. The first performer was ELP, with the track "FROM THE BEGINNING". This was not on the original 45 minute special. If you missed seeing the latest broadcast, it will be repeated on Friday 19th September at 9.00 a..m. in Europe and 8.00 a.m. in the U.K.. THEGAZZAS@AOL.COM ------------------------------ From: "Tony Brown" , on 8/30/97 7:39 AM: To: Subject: Iron Man on British TV John, **** UK DIGEST READERS PLEASE NOTE On Monday 8th September at 1330 (British Summer Time) the FOX KIDS NETWORK which is available on either "Cable" or "BSkyB" networks will commence daily broadcasts of the Iron Man cartoon series, which of course had it's music composed by Keith Emerson T O N Y B R O W N ------------------------------ From: DrumRolls@aol.com, on 8/17/97 9:04 PM: To: ELP,digest@reluctant.com Subject: Lyrics wanted: The Hut of Baba yaga Hi All! This is only my second posting on the ELP digest. And am new at this internet system-so bear w/ me if you will. I have a question that I hope SOMEONE can help me w/ concerning the lyrics to a portion of "Pictures". "The curse of Baba Yaga". Normally, I have very little trouble deciphering lyrics from music-and I have just about all of this-but there are a couple of words I can't make out- and hope MAYBE someone has this. I wrote a guy named "Rik" on the ELP web page-he has some of it right-but still not all of it....and he doesn't claim to have had these authorized by anyone either. Here is what I have down so far-from my own listening: "Terrible faces try defense, talk a lot but talk no sense- "Y---- to the smiling lies--(next two words indecipherable -then) smiling,night!" "Cut the quick to raise the dead, feeding those who are fed, drain the blood from hearts of stone, whores and hustlers- pick the bones". Can anyone help me out on this? "Cut the quick" may make no sense-but it certainly sounds like he is saying this on everything recorded. Even if you slow the recording down (one of the advantages of keeping your turntable) it still sounds like "Cut the quick..." THANKS A GREAT DEAL!!! Steve Barber ------------------------------ From: GRAHAM SEAMAN <113107.3622@compuserve.com>, on 8/2/97 7:10 PM: To: John Arnold Subject: Pictures At An Exhibition Hi John!!! I've only recently gained access to the EXCELLENT facility which is the ELP Digest, and I couldn't resist sending you this contribution for publication. Hello to all true music lovers eveywhere! Please allow me a few moments to reminisce. An interesting thing happened when I was scanning through some of the back issues of the Digest, for I came across an article in 7/5 from Alex Naloev, regarding an unpublished interview with CARL PALMER. In this, Mrs Naloev-to-be (Nadia Saul) spoke to himself about the Lindsey Clennell film 'PICTURES AT AN EXHIBITION', and how the psychedelic effects made her "...a little bit upset about those colour spots on the most expressive and driving sequences of the film". I agree. It reminded me of my misspent youth, and the time I received notoriety in school because I had had my letter of complaint published in the 'SOUNDS' music paper 27th January 1974, complete with a picture of Emerson and flailing L100 organ! The letter (entitled 'ELP -LOST IN PICTURES') was written as a result of seeing the film at the Odeon Bootle in Liverpool, England on 6th December 1973, and being absolutely disgusted at the way Clennell made the band disappear at regular intervals during the most important bits. I had been building myself up to the event for some time beforehand, and so you can imagine my displeasure and disappointment at seeing bubbles instead of Emerson, Captain America instead of Carl Palmer, and god knows what else instead of our Greg! To end it all, many years afterward when I became older, more married and greatly embossed with three children, (hello Jenna, Peter and Becky....I love you really!), I was overjoyed to spot a video of 'PICTURES AT AN EXHIBITION' by you-know-who in a most enlightened newsagents in Halewood. Eagerly purchasing it on the spot, I took it home and placed it in the VCR with trembling hands to find......yep! The Lindsey Clennell version in all its colourfully bubbling glory! I couldn't stop laughing at the irony of it all, and dug out the letter from my files to show the kids! An interesting postscript can be made after all this, for my Dad happened to be the Chief Projectionist at the Odeon Bootle at the time the film was shown. Although he had many enquiries from fans regarding the advertising posters which came with the film, he apologised and said that he had to return them to the distributors with the film itself. I helped him take them down from around the theatre, and was overjoyed when he allowed me to keep one for myself. I displayed the poster for a while, but during later years kept it rolled up in a tube for protection. I eventually decided to put it up for auction at the excellent ELP Convention in Birmingham which I attended in September 1995, and it was purchased and carried off by a young ELP fan no older than 13 years of age. I wondered what corner of the globe my poster was about to return to, for there were fans at the convention from New Zealand, Japan, Brazil, Germany, Sweden, the USA and Canada, as well as all those from the UK. It was an incredible coincidence when we bumped into the guy who bought my poster, and found that he lived in the northern end of Liverpool while I lived in the south. Not only this, for I found out that he used to visit the Odeon Bootle when he was young with his parents, and knew the cinema well! I couldn't believe it, and felt that of all the places on the planet this treasured thing could have gone to, it must have been fate herself who declared that it should go home to Liverpool again. I made the guy's day when I told him that Robert Ashmore (the organiser of the convention), had told me that he knew of only one other poster of its kind in existence...and that was owned by EMO himself. It seemed to finish a perfect day off - perfectly! Enough waffle! On with the rest of the Digest! - GRAHAM - Liverpool, England EMAIL: 113107.3622@COMPUSERVE.COM ------------------------------ From: cmbuford@mindspring.com, on 8/1/97 8:45 PM: To: arnold@dartmouth.coordinate.com Subject: Symphony Concerts I like reading the opinions here, but have tried to refrain from joining in the game of armchair "management" until now. I always figure that with the whole recent history of seemingly stupid choices ("Hot Seat") or missed opportunities by our lads, there's probably some key information we don't know that would make perfect sense if we did. The music business seldom runs the way fans wish it did. But this bugs me, and if anyone in managment happens to read this, I'd even like to hear what they have to say: I see that Kansas, of all bands, plans to record a symphonic reworking of old hits this fall and then hit the amphitheatre "shed" circuit in the spring to take over the niche just now abandoned by the Moody Blues. In the words of violinist Robby Steinhardt, "They just recently stopped doing that, so we're gonna fill in that slot. We'll be the first American band ever to do this." Now, I have nothing against Kansas and rather like a lot of what they did in the '70s. In high school they were an "accessible" concert attraction in their frequent touring, and in college I came to consider them good for "slumming," or a "guilty pleasure" to the British prog-block of titans (ELP-Floyd-Yes-Genesis), which I considered "the real deal." But I have to ask: Assuming this symphony thing is true - Meaning that this isn't just wishful thinking or a tentative plan of action, but that they have firm commitmetns and really could pull this off after playing bars and small theaters the past three years - then why couldn't ELP have been the ones to "fill in that slot"... In fact, I've been wondering ever since the Moody Blues started touring all over the place. Isn't the "Works" tour audience of 20 years ago now the one that supports their local pops orchestras? ELP has much more longevity and respect than Kansas, for godsakes ... ------------------------------ From: Peter Wilton , on 7/7/97 9:45 AM: To: ELP-digest@reluctant.com Subject: re: ELP Digest V7 #13 In ELP Digest V7 #13.... >>> Sorry to say this, but I found the sound just terrible. I could hardly >>> hear the keyboards. I admit that my position right in front of the stage >>> may not have been the best one to judge this quite objectively. But >>> anyway, it shouldn't be that much of a problem these days to achieve a >>> proper sound quality! As a composer I work a lot in the field of >>> electroacoustic music, and the main concern with regard to the sound >>> diffusion in a concert is sound quality and transparency rather than >>> loudness. I would suggest to the people from the mixing desk to work with >>> electroacousic composers for some time and diffuse concerts of >>> electroacoustic music. Go and study what people like Jonty Harrison from >>> the University of Birmingham in England do with their BEAST system! And >>> something very simple: if you'd only put the faders down a bit, you would >>> gain quite a lot! May I say how much I agree with this. It was a problem in the RAH in 1992. I saw two shows there, one from a box (and therefore not in the line of fire of the speakers!), and one from an upper tier of stalls. In the former case, I could hear all the notes with reasonable clarity. In the latter, it was OK until the sound was turned up for Romeo and Juliet. Thereafter, I could tell which track was being played only from the bass notes. As I value my hearing, and having anticipated this, I took wax earplugs with me, in order to avoid ear-damage. A reasonable volume ensures the excitement associated with volume - this is what we got at the beginning of the concert. When it's turned up further, you actually get the kind of distortion associated with speakers working beyond their capacity *in the ear-drum itself*. This is what happened at the higher volume level. The result is that you can't actually hear all those complex harmonies and counterpoints that Emerson writes, because the sound is being amplified beyond the capacity of the human ear to distinguish between timbres. The final improvisation is very interesting on the video, but I could hear only a shuffle beat and bass note for ten minutes or so in the hall itself, and watch Emerson's fingers moving, not knowing what it was all about! -- Peter Wilton The Gregorian Association Web Page: http://www.beaufort.demon.co.uk/chant.htm ------------------------------ From: , on 7/8/97 9:02 PM: To: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: Some thoughts about several items Thanks, Rainer, for bringing up the subject of musical innovation in ELP Digest # 13! >>> No doubt he is a very gifted virtuoso. But there are lots of pianists >>> with an amazing technique these days. Go to one of the piano competitions >>> and see how young people can play! The standard is so incredibly high. >>> For example, all of you who think that "Memories" from the "Love Beach" >>> album contains some great piano parts: have you ever listened to >>> Maurizio Pollini's legendary recording of the Etude op 10,1 in C major >>> by Chopin? To me Its never been a question of whether Keith is "the greatest" player on earth. I believe there are greater piano players even in Norway (like Leif Ove Andsnes). However, since I discovered ELP in 1973 I've loved his (and theirs) COMBINATION of technique, "rockability", revolt and musical innovation. The arrangements on Toccata, Pictures and Barbarian shows in various ways that its possible to make really innovative and valid interpretations of "classical music" by "modern artists". ELP are in a different league to e.g. Ekseption's "cute" versions of the classics, even if those also are played by somewhat virtuosos. I believe we agree in this! >>> As you have read in several reports on the ELP concerts from the new >>> tour, the program didn't include any new pieces. The program wasn't >>> much different from what they had played five years ago. I don't mind >>> to listen to old pieces again every now and then. But in this case >>> I'd prefer the entire pieces to excerpts and medleys. Again we'ere in agreement! I feared exactly this last year and wrote to Keith and Will in the naive hope that it could be avoided. I suggested them playing quite different versions or pieces never played live (e.g. even "Memoirs of an Officer and a Gentleman") as well as newly composed or arranged pieces. Besides Wakeman's "Journey" I think ELP's "Pictures" (three years earlier) is the only full piece by a rock group first being recorded and published live (well, Deep Purpla and Jon Lord also had some...). I went on a bit in my usual way with various eager suggestions. To all this Will responed by explaining that the tour in 96 was to be of their "greatest hits", only. And the one in 97 seems to be about the same, even if the guys individually (and collectively) have other pieces up their sleeves. . However, I believe that the boys - by also wisely playing large arenas and festivals - are about to reinstate themselves in such a way that it will be possible later - on this tour or on the next one - to make bolder attempts! >>> But apart from that, in the seventies ELP used to stand for a kind of >>> pioneering spirit, for innovation and creativity. Complex pieces like >>> "Toccata" epitomized what ELP stood for. Precisely! >>> And this is opposed to any kind of nostalgia. Many of us who attend >>> ELP concerts are ageing youths in their forties and maybe fifties now, >>> but I think we are still too young just to dream of the "good old days". >>> This is what my grandmother did when she was ninety. Let's all meet up >>> for a session of nostalgia in about forty years, and we'll invite ELP >>> to play their old stuff again, and then we'll all be happy and cry. Being in my late thirties I quite agree. Two of my latest CD aquisitions were "Roots of Selputura and "Fat of the Land" by Prodigy. I listen a lot to new music, also classical. And however much and desperate I hunt its impossible to find anything as bold and innovative as ELP (not even in the prog field, despite some great new bands!). I love ELP for their amazing ability at coming up with something new on every album through the 70's (even if on the last ones...) And ELPowell was very good, escpecially side 1 (talking LP here). Even Black Moon and ITHS showed a great variety of style and different apporaches. >>> Artists work and develop for their entire life. Composers like Karlheinz >>> Stockhausen or Iannis Xenakis are in their seventies now, and they still >>> compose from early in the morning till late at night. And they always try >>> to move on. And Keith Emerson! His film music of the 80's showed a wilingness to move on! The scores to e.g. "Best Revenge" and "Inferno" contains great gems! And the piece "Glorietta" on his "Christmas Album" really proves he's far from dead yet! I believe Keith has composed many a piece in the last year or twenty which really should be released or rearranged for ELP. >>> When an artist gets stuck, he or she is sort of dead. So I do hope that >>> there will be some exciting and complex new music by ELP in the future. >>> Come on guys, you can do better than that! Yes, that's exactly what most fans feel and wish and beg for! Let's pray and pay whenever they come to play! Only by trying not to be "popular" will ELP ever have a chance of returning to being popular! If that's a goal for serious artists to strive for... In todays musical marketplace I believe, however, that its no longer realistic to hope for multi million hits by very many groups - the diversity of style and sub cultures have just gone to far. Yours Bjorn Are Bjorn-Are.Davidsen@s.nett.telenor.no ------------------------------------------------------------------- The Weaver in the Web that he made - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Our minds were moving parallel Because they never met ------------------------------ From: Nick Zales , on 7/15/97 12:02 PM: To: ELP-digest@reluctant.com Subject: ELP Concert Set List John - Your ELP Digest is just GREAT. Keep up the good work. On the other hand, although I have seen ELP everytime they have played nearby, judging from the European set list I will probably miss their next stop in the Midwest (USA). I am tired of ELP playing the same old songs and NOT playing more than a tidbit from their greatest work - Brain Salad Surgery. Obviously my hero, Keith, simply is not up to it anymore. I'm sick and tired of "Tarkus" and "Fanfare for the Common Man/Rondo." I want to hear BSS! All of it. Even more from Trilogy would be appreciated. But apparently Emerson has lost the technique (or will) to re-learn those songs. I love ELP, which is why it is a crying shame that they will not play their best material live, preferring to play it safe. UK fans, you are not missing much. ELP is on the verge of becoming a cover band - for their own music! Nick ------------------------------ From: riccardo , on 7/15/97 3:49 PM: To: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: GX-1 Hi everybody from spaghetti land, first of all, sorry for my bad english writing. The GX-1 matter seems to be a neverending story. I'll try to put a definitive word on this, even if only Keith could say so. There has been 2 GX-1s. The first one bought from yamaha, used for Works album and subsequential tour. It has been painted black for the stage needs. You can see it in the Montreal concert video. Also some photos of it can be found in the book Vintage Synthesizer by Mark Vail. The second one bought from Led Zeppelin. I do not know the year of the purchase but surely it is after the Led's concert filmed in Knewborth (or Wembley..., ask a Led fan). It was still white (its original colour) when I saw them both in England. It is the same used in the Black Moon video. The first had the midi on it. So it is sure that Keith used it till mid of the eighties. I cannot tell that the first one was still alive when ELPowell toured the USA. I have a poor quality video of a concert, but it is B/W and the GX-1 is not clearly visible. I can tell for sure that the first one did not get broken, destroyed, burned or anything else in the famous "tractor into the barn" accident. In fact, the black one is the most precious item of my collection of old analogs. It still lacks some functions but still can be played, after a difficult restoring work. I hope I can meet Keith some day, to definitively state the facts. I hope this can be possible july 20th in Castiglione Delle Stiviere. Ciao, riccardo ------------------------------ From: "Plotczyk, Steve" To: ELP-digest@reluctant.com Subject: Rocking The Classics Date: 7/15/97 Re: Rocking the Classics In ELP Digest Volume 6 Issue 30 Topic 5 - Rocking the Classics Bjo/rn Are Davidsen first brought to our attention a new book about progressive rock with numerous mention of ELP and recommended getting it. I second the recommendation! I ordered this book on a Friday and had it in hand by Monday night. I thought I would look up the ELP references in the index and quickly check out those parts but as it turns out ELP's entry in the index is the largest one of all of them! Their mention is virtually from the start to the end of the book and just about everywhere in between. After digging into it a bit it soon became clear to me that this book was well worth going over cover to cover, all 324 pages. I found the discography section helpful in revealing to me new information about some other progressive rock bands. The discography has a very good listing of all albums of a band in a chonological order with date of album release and maintaining the exact band lineup all throughout and lists all guest musicians for each album as well. Additional information on the albums is provided to reveal if it's a live version, if it contains previously released material, etc. The cover has a photo of Yes performing live on 6-30-79 at the Hollywood Sportatorium and was provided by Mr. Ed "Bear" Morgan. There are also several pictures of ELP inside the book. As Mark Delugt mentioned in his post, pages 87-95 contain an in depth analysis of the Tarkus suite from different perspectives including a schematic of the tonal movement in a Schenkerian framework. Although not as in depth as the 150 page Ford thesis on the Tarkus suite, I still found it insightful and quite enjoyed reading it. The author, Edward Macan, who was born in 1961 is a music educator, composer, mallet percussionist and pianist from the College of the Redwoods in Eureka CA. He knows what he's talking about and recently formed a band called Hermetic Science that just recorded a new CD that showcases his mallet percussion playing in a progressive music format and features promising young musicians from the college. Printed at the top of the back cover of the book is this recommendation from Keith Emerson himself: "While there have been thousands of books on every form of music, progressive music as such has gotten a raw deal. Edward Macan has been brave enough to write the quintessential book on a curiously under-represented form of music - and it's about time." This is a rundown of the table of contents: Lyrics Credits vi Prelude vii Introduction 3 1 The Birth of Progressive Rock 15 2 The Progressive Rock Style: The Music 30 3 The Progressive Rock Style: The Visuals 57 4 The Progressive Rock Style: The Lyrics 69 5 Four Different Progressive Rock Pieces 85 6 Related Styles 126 7 A Sociology of Progressive Rock 144 8 The Critical Reception of Progressive Rock 167 9 Progressive Rock After 1976 179 Postlude 220 Appendix (Discography/Personal Listings) 223 Notes 245 Bibliography 271 Index 281 This information should be helpful for ordering: Title: Rocking The Classics Subtitle: English Progressive Rock and the Counterculture Author: Edward Macan ISBN: 0-19-509888-9 Cost: $17.95 Date: 1997 Publisher: Oxford Paperbacks Oxford University Press Inc. 198 Madison Ave. New York NY 10016 I'd like to thank Bjo/rn Are for first bringing this excellent reading material to my attention and in the words of Mark Delugt (ELP Digest Volume 7 Issue 2): "GET THIS BOOK!". Steve Plotczyk ------------------------------ From: on 7/15/97 9:29 PM: To: Subject: Trying to get California Jam released.... As most ELP fans know, there is a wonderful concert recorded by the ABC American television in 1974 -The California Jam-. This video rests on the shelves of this TV company. I am sure all ELP fans would like this concert to be published. Unfortunatelly, ELP do not possess the rights. The only possibility to have it published-as Keith suggested in an interview for the magazine Imppressions- is that people wrote to the ABC TV . Let,s tell them that we want this concert to be published.-The whole concert- We can both write or telephone to: Channel 7 WABC TV 133O Avenue of The Americas New York, NY. 10019 USA ------------------------------ From: airshift@webtv.net Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 00:39:28 -0700 To: ELP-digest@reluctant.com, dnar@webtv.net Subject: Re: ELP Digest V7 #14 (Edward Maccan's band) Hi, everybody. I don't post much 4 lack of time, but I just wanted 2 share the following: Several months ago I had the privelage to listen to Hermetic Science featuring the music of Edward Maccan. The band was excellent performing orig. compositions and some covers inc. ELP's vers. of Fanfare. They were a 3 piece bass,drums, and vibes; all instrumental. Afterwards I was able to talk with Ed and he autographed my book. He also gave me his # so I could set up some time to improv on gtr over his highly structured music. I just got a Line 6 amp and would be fun, but I don't feel ready yet. I have played 31 yrs. and this music is really different and complex. When he finds someone to release the cd many readers of the RTC book will be amazed. I feel fortunate to know(sorta) a writer that get's mentioned in so many prog newsgroups. The reason he seems so up on prog is because he composes and plays it very well. Sorry for the ramble, but I thought you might find this interesting. Music Rules! ------------------------------ From: Dave Wright , on 7/17/97 6:31 PM: To: ELP-digest@reluctant.com Subject: ELP - Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Hello all, For those that might be interested. I just came back from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland. Though there is nothing on ELP per-say They did have a new item. The acoustic guitar Greg Lake used for Lucky Man. It's on the bottom floor just before you go into the exhibition hall. I'm sure it's a temporary location. Not much European music represented except Stones and Beatles. Mostly US stuff like Motown etc. Enjoy Dave ------------------------------ From: ralph.sommer@t-online.de (Ralph Sommer), on 7/18/97 8:39 PM: To: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: ELP in Germany After I had seen ELP in Essen, Germany, 1992, which was the first time I saw them live, I was very happy to see that they will play in Germany in 1997. Having the chance to visit the concerts in Kassel, Dortmund, Fulda and Dresden I must add here that it was really great. What Nick Welman posted here some issues before about the concert in Kassel I can only agree with: A second encore beginning with throwing away the towel Greg had around his neck and playing Schizoid Man - whow. They also did the second encore in Fulda and Dresden. To hear the old compositions was really fine because I never heard most of them live before. So the tour concept is really alright. A special event for me was Dresden: The last concert in Germany and for many people the first concert they could see ELP, because Dresden is in the "far east" of Germany. Eight years ago people could only listen to forbidden Western Germany radio to hear ELP, so I was very excited about the reception of ELP in Dresden. It was great. 2.200 people watching directly open air and some hundreds standing on the bridge over the river Elbe to watch as non-paying spectators. ELP play with such a vitality and energy that it is hardly to believe that all is live although if You look at them it seems to be easy for all three. Keith's playing is fantastic. His communication with the audience great: As he was lying under his old hammond at the end of the show he recognized our two children (age 10 and 7) in the first row and greeted them while he was playing - I thought it was unbelievable. He played like a young god. Greg's voice is much better than in 1992. He has now again the strong voice he ever had, very clear and as I know it since decades. Carl's drumming with his superb energy and absolutely correct was nice to see and hear. He also communicates with the audience and makes some jokes. I remember Dortmund when there suddenly was no sound of the bass guitar: Carl used the situation to play a little dance rhythm and everbody laughed and had fun. There was always a very good atmosphere in the audience and I had the feeling we are a world wide ELP family. After the shows we mostly had the chance to talk to them, get some pictures and autographs: Now I know two more young fans, because it was the first rock concert for my children - they have got autographs of ELP on their jackets! I heard that ELP is working on a new album. Some DAT tapes are ready. The person who heard this said that they sound very good. The release will be in August 1998 I hope and then they will tour again beginning in Great Britain I think. I am just waiting for them. But now many thanks to ELP and all people who made this tour possible. Ralph Sommer ------------------------------ Digest subscrition, mailing address, and administrative stuff to: elp-digest-request@reluctant.com ELP-related info that you want to put in the digest to: elp-digest@reluctant.com Back issues are available from the ELP Digest web site: URL: http://bliss.berkeley.edu/elp/ Note: The opinions, information, etc. contained in this digest are those of the original message sender listed in each message. They are not necessarily those of the mailing list/digest administrator or those of any institution through whose computers/networks this mail flows. Unless otherwise noted, the individual authors of each entry in the Digest are the copyright holders of that entry. Please respect that copyright and act accordingly. I especially ask that you not redistribute the ELP Digest in whole or in part without acknowledging the original source of the digest and each author. 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