ELP Digest Tuesday, 26 January 1999 Volume 9 : Issue 1 The "Brain Salad" Edition Today's Topics: Announcing... a new home for the ELP Digest! www.brain-salad.com IRC Chat and import news NMC - Cozy Powell tribute concert ...UK Impressions ELP Singles Then and Now, Keith's Hammond, etc. Then and Now More BBC Box Set (Return of the Manticore) ELP '77 Orchestra Tour Works Orchestral Tour Re: ELP and Mellotron Quote in Knife-Edge Re: Request for Knife Edge Info Emerson Quote List In the Hot Seat font Prelude ======= Finally, the inaugural ELP Digest for 1999. Now, beginning our 9th year of publication. And what better way to celebrate (even though it's late) than with the announcement of a new web site for the ELP Digest. It's my way of showing that I remain committed to the Digest and all news related to solo and/or group efforts of Keith Emerson, Greg Lake, and Carl Palmer. I've still got a huge backlog and I'll try to deal with it as time allows. Till then, thanks for your patience and keep the faith. - John - ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 1/26/99 From: arnold@reluctant.com Subject: Announcing... a new home for the ELP Digest! So, you've all noticed that there's been a dearth of ELP Digests since the end of 1998. Well, I've been busy. Of course, there were the Christmas and New Year holidays where I tried to catch up on some sleep. Then, I got bogged down moving all of my ELP Digest files to a faster computer and a faster modem. But, the big news is that I'm pleased to announce that I'm (finally) in the process of revamping and modernizing the ELP Digest web site. So, without further ado, I am proud to announce the new home of the ELP Digest: http://www.brain-salad.com Unknown to most ELP Digest readers, the machine that I have been using for the ELP Digest web site since there was an ELP Digest web site is located at the University of California at Berkeley. I've never even visited the campus but, back when I first asked if anyone had some web space to lend me, Christian Plaunt at UCB very kindly and generously offered me an account, disk space, and offered to keep the web server up and running. Chris has done a huge service for us all and he deserves all the thanks we can give him. (Thanks, Chris!) In recent months, that machine has become less reliable and is no longer really supported. So, I started the search for a new way to host the ELP Digest site. After thinking, researching, and planning, I decided it was time for the ELP Digest to have its own home and its own domain name. After pondering the situation for a while, I decided to go with a real web hosting service and a real domain name. I hope the www.brain-salad.com is easy to remember. (Alas, the non-hyphenated www.brainsalad.com was taken before I got to it. So, we'll stick with the hyphenated version.) Over the coming weeks, I'll be tidying up a few loose ends on the new web site and migrating all of the e-mail addresses, etc. over to the brain-salad.com domain. Till then, I'll leave the old site up and running (in case there are bugs I haven't found). I hope you enjoy the new site. Almost all of the old information is there. And I'll be working on the loose ends to make easier to navigate in the weeks and months to come. Thanks for you continued support of the ELP Digest and the ELP Digest web site. See you at brain-salad.com, - John - ------------------------------ From: Gary Davis , on 1/15/99 10:58 PM: To: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: IRC Chat and import news Hi, folks: Just thought I would drop you a word about the Keith Emerson IRC Chat. We're still working on rescheduling that event. It's not likely to be in January, as I'd hoped, though. In talking to Will Alexander, the feeling I get is that Keith definitely wants to do it. But with the major shakeup that occured last month, there is much activity going on to plan for the future. As soon as plans are firmed up and Keith has something positive to talk about, I think that's when it's going to happen. In the meantime, here's a notice I received this past week from my import distributor about some very special Japanese imports that will be coming out in the near future. I don't have a specific date for the release yet. "EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER-BACK CATALOG: BLACK MOON BRAIN SALAD SURGERY EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER IN CONCERT IN THE HOT SEAT LADIES & GENTLEMEN (2CD) LOVE BEACH PICTURES AT AN EXHIBITION TARKUS TRILOGY WORKS VOL. ONE (2CD) WORKS VOL. TWO Digitally remastered using 20 bit K2 technology, each of these are Japanese reissues of the English prog rock supergroup's albums in miniaturized LP sleeves limited to the initial pressing only. Each contains all of the original tracks & the original cover art. Gatefold sleeves included on the albums that had one originally." Not too long ago a number of Yes albums were released in the same format - special remastering job with miniaturized LP sleeves. It's important to note that these special releases are limited to the initial pressing only (and I'm afraid I don't know how big that initial pressing will be). I had to disappoint a lot of customers who were looking for those Yes releases long after they'd disappeared. So my advice is not to wait. Pre order them to be assured that you'll get yours. You'll find these listed on my Import Preorder page at . Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop@artist-shop.com phone: 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!! ************************************************************** Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm ------------------------------ From: Dave Bentley , on 1/12/99 3:48 PM: To: ELP-digest@reluctant.com Subject: NMC - Cozy Powell tribute concert ...UK Hi John...this may be good for the ELP Digest ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Hi all I thought any rock fans in the Uk might be interested that the Cozy Powell tribute concert takes place at the Buxton Opera House on Saturday 1st May. Many well-known artistes including Richie Blackmore of Deep Purple will appear in this one night gala concert but the exact line up will not be known till the night. (Any chance Fish!!!) The following night at the same venue the 6th Annual Alexis Korner Memorial Concert will take place. It is at this concert several years ago that Plant and Page performed for the first time in many years and surprise guests will again be appearing. For more info - prices,times etc feel free to mail me or get in touch with Buxton Opera House at http://www.buxton-opera.co.uk -- Mike Barton. Check out all the latest from Buxton Football Club. http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Sideline/8740/buxton.html -- Dave Bentley ------------------------------ From: "Whetmore" , on 1/8/99 2:33 PM: To: "John Arnold" Subject: Impressions IMPRESSIONS ---------------------- Happy New Year to all our subscribers and potential subscribers - in other words, all ELP Fans! Issue 6 of Impressions has now been released. The main feature is an exclusive in-depth interview with Pete Sinfield. Pete talked solidly for two hours about his life with ELP, King Crimson and others he has worked with and is working with, his lyrics, his hopes and aspirations and his ambitions. He is a warm human being with a great sense of humour and this interview captures his personality and his life as a great lyricist. Also in Issue 6 - a tribute to Cozy Powell as well as News, Releases and much more. We also have back issues # 1-5 available. Price per issue is 6 in the UK, 7 (appx. $12) Rest of the World. We are now taking subscriptions for Issues 7 and 8. Issue 7, due out early summer, will feature exclusive interviews with Keith Emerson and Dr. Bob Moog, as well as an article on the Hammond. Issue 8, due out at the end of the year, will feature an exclusive interview with Carl Palmer. Price for these two issues is: 12 in the UK, 14 (appx. $24) Rest of the World. All prices include postage and packing and cheques are payable to "Trilogy". We accept payment by the following credit cards: MasterCard, VISA and American Express. If paying by credit card, a 5% commission will be added and we need your name as it appears on the card, card number/expiry date, type of card and which issues you would like to order. You can either place your order by E-Mail (estazz99@intonet.co.uk) (our bank says it is safe!) or by posting it to: Impressions, P.O. Box 516, Addlestone, Surrey KT15 1YA, England. Please visit our web page (under construction) on: www.interx.net/~jgreen/impressions.html I look forward to hearing from you! Liv G. Whetmore Editor - Impressions ------------------------------ From: Cole , on 11/11/98 7:13 PM: To: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: ELP Singles This is the first time I've posted, so I'll make it short. Does anyone know where I could find a list of ELP singles (specifically vinyl)? I haven't had much luck finding any; the only one I've found so far is ELPowell's "Touch and Go"/"Learning to Fly". Thanks, Cole ------------------------------ From: Dave Bentley , on 11/7/98 12:07 AM: To: ELP-digest@reluctant.com Subject: Then and Now, Keith's Hammond, etc. As an ELP/Nice fan of 26 years it was with *great disappointment* that I heard the new double live CD "Then and Now". . Although the sound quality from '74 leaves alot to be desired one thing is certain.....the Hammond kicks more ass than it does on the 97/98 material. Hammond "heaven" for me is the sound on Blues Variation on the Pictures at an Exhibition album 1971. In most of the material of the Nice and early ELP the Hammond is played slightly overdriven with C3 chorus on most numbers. Key click is prominent and the sound cuts through and is screaming! The Hammond on the later material on this "Then and Now" CD sounds weak and insipid.....both a friend of mine with his own band and myself agree that our C3s sound much better than this. It can't just be the fact that Keith just runs the Hammond through a 122 now when in the past he used a whole bank of Leslies as our C3s only run through 122 or 147. Even the L100 on Rondo sounds like a cheesy home organ compared to Rondos of past (particularly Rondo'69 by the Nice) What is happening to the godfather of the Hammond in rock music?? Has he made a concious effort to change the volume and other settings of his Hammond? A "straight" Hammond sound is OK for some numbers, but sounds terrible in numbers which were written for a screaming Hammond (Tarkus 71 studio version and Tarkus both Live at the Albert Hall and Live in Poland 97 is another example). In my opinion if Keith isn't going to make his Hammond sound like his old trademark sound he should either give up playing it or stop playing numbers which are crying out for a screaming Hammond, or write new material for a more laid back, easy listening, pipe and slippers-type Hammond sound for the band's ageing audience! And before anybody flames me, just listen to this CD and then listen to any of ELPs first 5 albums, particularly Pictures, and you will instantly know what I'm talking about. The other grizzle I have with this album is the absolutely dire version of a Time and A Place...slow, plodding and with none of the tension and excitement of the original. Greg's "new" voice is also beginning to irritate me immensly...it sounds the same on all the tracks and it makes the plodding renditions of Touch and Go and Time and a Place just too painful for me to listen to any more. Keith's playing is getting sloppy..I've never heard so many bum notes before. May be the band are just too old now and have lost the plot. As a fan of many years I feel very sad saying this. I've just recently seen Marillion live and the energy, musicianship, stage presence and atmosphere was just incredible and made the ELP gig at Hamburg which I saw last year seem pathetic. I just pray that the new album will be another BSS or Tarkus, but I doubt it will. Even the material that's been written for the "Generation Game" sounds awful...and what the hell were they doing getting involved with that anyway...they've lost my respect here: what's next, adverts, TV jingles and live "variety" shows?!! This was a band I loved and it almost makes my cry writing this. I'm sure I speak for many other fans. ELP..if you want to have a future, get your act together, write some challenging music, practice your playing and get the Hammond sounding like it should!! -- Dave Bentley ------------------------------ From: paneroma , on 11/11/98 3:46 PM: To: arnold@reluctant.com Subject: Then and Now Hi,everyone I'm an Italian ELP fan and that's my first posting.I'm writing to point out that I've just purchased a double CD called :ELP Then & Now. These two CD compilation includes tracks from the famous Cal Jam 1974 (does anyone remember Ritchie Blackmore , his Strat and a cam ?), and from the 1997/98 Tour. The tracklist is as follows: Cd One: THEN : California Jam : Toccata (edited beginning w/abrupt and premature fade) Take a pebble (edit- no first section inc. Still ... /Lucky man) Piano Improvisations Karn Evil 9 1st impression (begins with Welcome...) Karn Evil 9 3rd impression NOW: A Time and a Place (!) Piano Concerto No.1 3rd Mov. From the Beginning CD TWO: NOW (continued) Karn Evil 9 1st impression Tiger in a Spotlight Hoedown Touch and Go (dedicated to the late Cozy Powell) Knife Edge Bitches Crystal Honky Tonky Train Blues Take a Pebble Lucky Man (a la LIP) Fanfare for the Common Man (quoting Abaddon's Bolero) Rondo 21st Century Schizoid Man (!) America The sound quality of THEN is definitely lo-fi but the NOW section is brilliant. The package is superb showing as a cover ELP IX by H.R.GIGER and inner notes by Bruce Pilato,with some Cal/Jam known story , with a lot of photos. The performance on the THEN section is surely over the top, while the NOW one is affected by ,IMHO,the lack of power and clarity of Lake's voice.On the other hand Keith's work is almost perfect while Carl's performance is top-notch. I must admit that the differencies between the NOW section and "Elp Live in Poland "release are almost insignificant but the presence of Time ... and 21st Century /America is well worth the buying. (not to mention the THEN section) Cheers Danilo. ------------------------------ From: Peter Wilton , on 11/11/98 2:41 PM: To: ELP-digest@reluctant.com Subject: More BBC People may be interested to know that BBC Radio 3, the classical radio station, has a quarter-hour afternoon slot on four weekday afternoons each week called "The Music Machine" which examines issues and music other than classical. During the week after BBC2's "Rock Family Trees", the subject was progressive rock. The bands highlighted were, as for Rock Family Trees, Yes and ELP, and in the same mix, i.e. heavily weighted towards Yes, with ELP trying to get an occasional word in edgeways. One of the four programmes was almost entirely devoted to an interview with Rick Wakeman. It almost seems as if they took the opportunity to produce both the radio and television programmes from the same research! We heard a few snippets of ELP, from the original Pictures album, and from Tarkus, the latter during the inevitable discussion of the "excesses" of progressive rock! -- Peter Wilton The Gregorian Association Web Page: http://www.beaufort.demon.co.uk/ ------------------------------ From: Scott Bassin , on 11/11/98 12:10 PM: To: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: Box Set (Return of the Manticore) Hi John: I saw the post about the "Pirates" version on the box set and thought I would comment on that. Only Pictures was recorded in surround sound. I actully spoke to Bill Levinson who produced the set and the version of pirates that's on their is a TOTALLY different mix. He said it was a much dryer mix with a lot less reverb. Something they found in the vaults. Anyway I thought this may interest you. Take Care Scott -- Scott Bassin Email sbassin@rockland.net ------------------------------ From: Nick Zales , on 11/11/98 9:52 AM: To: ELP-digest@reluctant.com Cc: rjacek1@ford.com Subject: ELP '77 Orchestra Tour Someone said: >>>Detroit, Montreal and New York were three of the cities which ELP performed with the orchestra in 1977. I am curious to know which other cities featured the orchestra before they were dropped from the tour after the first three weeks.<<< I saw ELP with the Orchestra (my first ELP concert!) in Chicago at Soldier's Field. So add Chicago to the list. Does anybody have a list of Keith Emerson's solo albums and when they were released? Thanks in advance. Nick ------------------------------ From: Mike Laverty , on 11/10/98 11:11 PM: To: "'elp-digest@reluctant.com'" Subject: Works Orchestral Tour > From: rjacek1 , on 9/23/98 10:54 AM: > To: elp-digest-web@reluctant.com > Subject: Works Orchestral Tour > > Detroit, Montreal and New York were three of the cities which ELP > performed with the orchestra in 1977. I am curious to know which other > cities featured the orchestra before they were dropped from the tour > after the first three weeks. > I remember the orchestra was with the boys in Chicago at Soldier Field in early June. So I did a web search on Emerson Lake Palmer Soldier Field 1997. It brought me to this web site. http://bliss.berkeley.edu/elp/history/concert-list.html It doesn't tell you which cities the orchestra played along, but I'm guessing Detroit, Chicago, St. Paul, Philadelphia, and New York. It shows the Montreal concert at Stade du Parc Olympique as being August 26. I'm probably wrong as the memory fades, but I seem to recall the band letting the orchestra go and they regrouped for that concert. (A few minutes later...) I just pulled out the programme for the concert and found a Time magazine review of their Detroit concert. What a treasure! The total cost of the audio equipment was $750,000. Payroll for the orchestra: $40,000 per week. John, I don't know if you can send this along as I'm not well-versed in copyright laws. But giving credit where credit is due, (Time Magazine, July 1977 -- no author mentioned) I don't see any harm in it. Especially since we're not profiting from it. Here's the review: ELP: 72,000 Watts in the Name As the houselights dimmed in Detroit's Cobo Hall last week, the concertmaster signaled for the oboist's A, and the Stings and woodwinds went about the squeaky business of tuning up. Then, like something out of an old Esther Williams spectacular. Conductor Godfrey Salmon rose 14 feet in the air atop a hydraulic podium. Silence reigned for a good second or two before the cries came from the audience: "Rock 'n' roll!" "Get it on!" "It's boogie time!" Not quite boogie time. The British rock group Emerson Lake & Palmer had not brought along a full 58-piece symphony orchestra for just another evening of chug-a-chug rock. As Maestro Salmon gave the downbeat, 9,500 fans, many reared on the violent excesses of Alice Cooper and Iggy Pop, got the first sampling of what was in store for them. From 40 huge loudspeaker enclosures suspended from the ceiling came the mighty sounds of Abaddon's Bolero, a work Composer-Pianist Keith Emerson has based on the same Spanish rhythm as the Ravel classic. After a few bars, a thick curtain of light, produced by intense lights rimming the stage, dissolved to reveal Keith Emerson, 32, Greg Lake, 29, and Carl Palmer, 27, hard at work on the center stage. There was Keith darting from Hammond organ to Moog synthesizer, and Greg picking away at his bass guitar. Between them sat Carl, confined along with his drums, snares, gongs and tubular bells in a percussion cockpit that resembled nothing so much as a mod four-poster converted into a padded cell for the phantom of the opera. The music built relentlessly, awesomely, powered by 72,000 watts worth of amplification-enough to start a medium-sized radio station. The volume never reached the threshold of pain (130 decibels), but it was, in Salmon's words, "enough to peel an apple at ten feet." Emerson Lake & Palmer are best known for their mastery of what is sometimes called classical rock, but what Emerson prefers to describe as "progressive rock with a lot of regard for the past. Their current tour of the U.S. and Canada is the first in 2-1/2 years. Understandably, the faithful at Cobo Hall were eager to discover what their heroes were up to these days. ELP, as they are also known, responded by offering a generous sampling from their new double LP album Works, Volume I. That included nothing less than a full-fledged Piano Concerto No. I by Emerson, which sounded more Bartok than rock n' roll. The Detroit fans warmed up slowly to ELP's new, sophisticated stylings. Jim Richter, 22, was overheard saying to his date, "You said I'd love these guys. This sounds like something on PBS." That all changed when the group turned to some golden oldies from the years 1970 to 1974. The applause was thunderous for ELP's version of the Pictures at an Exhibition, a monster hit of 1972. Drummer Palmer took the spotlight as soloist in the churning, pulsating, jazz-oriented Tank. The stage suddenly went dark and then orange, red and yellow lights began to consume him from below, like a huge bonfire. The crowd screamed and shouted its approval. At the end of the concert, the aisle near the stage were jammed with girls sitting on their boy friends' shoulders, clapping their hands. That was more like an Emerson Lake & Palmer reception. From the start, ELP has known how to get attention: their opening set at the 1970 Isle of Wight festival, the group's first major gig, was announced by the roar of two cannons. But the fireworks that have made ELP rich consist of an innovative, complex kind of rock that seems to carry on the adventure of the Beatles' 1967 precedent-shattering Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Right now ELP's aim is not noise but the successful blending of both rock group and orchestra. Those bands (Nice, Deep Purple, Moody Blues) that have tried similar collaborations have ended up with an overpowered orchestra, primarily because only the rockers were plugged directly into the amplification system. ELP solved the problem by equipping most instruments of the orchestra with a specially designed contact mike, ultimately feeding everything -including their own sounds-into the same mixing console. Total cost of the audio equipment: $750,000. Keith Emerson had the idea for a plugged-in orchestra while playing some of ELP's older records. "I listened to what I had been doing with all those synthesizers, and realized that I was hearing an orchestra inside my head all along. And so I said, 'Don't kid yourself. If you want to hear it that way, then hear it that way. Be happy.'" The expenses of the tour (the cast and crew number 115 people, the tab for the orchestra alone is $40.000 a week) could eventually cost the three stars nearly $4 million. It is too early to tell whether they will get it back, let alone make a profit-or take a bath. But for openers in Detroit, Emerson looked as happy as a kid with a gold-plated toy-and so did L. and P. ------------------------------ From: "Brian O'Sullivan" , on 11/3/98 11:15 PM: To: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: Re:ELP and Mellotron "Fernando Lopes de Mello e Silva" wrote: >Why didn't he [Emerson] use the instrument [Mellotron] in other recordings ? Is that he doesn't >like the sound, or possibly because it was so evident in Moody Blues, Yes, >Genesis and King Crimson's musical production ? In all the interviews I've read, I can't recall Keith ever mentioning an opinion on Mellotrons. I understand that Mellotrons were extremely delicate instruments -- sort of a mechanical "sampler" that used tape loops to produce the sounds -- not at all up to the demands of a tour. I do remember an interview with either Rick Wakeman or Tony Banks that described a few Mellotron horror stories -- units going out of tune mid-show because of humidity; having to travel with a spare unit, or borrowing a Mellotron at the last minute from another band because their Mellotron broke down... I can't imagine that the modular moog was a piece of cake to maintain either. Personally I can't imagine the sound of a Mellotron in ELP. I think the Moog and Hammond fit Keith's stlye much better -- much more aggressive. ========================================================= Brian O'Sullivan mailto://brianos@ziplink.net Columbia, MD http://www.ziplink.net/~brianos ------------------------------ From: Terry Carroll , on 11/11/98 9:43 PM: To: ELP-digest@reluctant.com Cc: "G.R.King" Subject: Quote in Knife-Edge On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 digest-mailer@reluctant.com wrote: > I wonder if any of you can help me with > a question that's been bugging me for some time. I fancied having a go at > K's organ solo in the middle of Knife Edge (incidentally, I really like > the slower and zingier version of it on the new Then & Now CD) and got > hold of the score for Janacek's Sinfonietta to see if I could find it. But > I can't - only the main bass line and the fudged chords melody seem to be > from Janacek, so what is this other quote? Bach's French Suite no. 1 in D, B.W.V. 812. A MIDI version available at . -- Terry Carroll | "Report of the Committee On Governmental Affairs, Santa Clara, CA | United States Senate, To Accompany S. 1364, An Act To carroll@tjc.com | Eliminate Unnecessary and Wasteful Federal Reports." Modell delendus est | - Title of U.S. Senate Report 105-187, May 11, 1998 ------------------------------ From: Mike Le Voi , on 11/11/98 7:48 PM: To: ELP-digest@reluctant.com Subject: Re: Request for Knife Edge Info The middle bit is the Allemande from BWV812 by JS Bach - I can't remember but I think that is a French or Italian Suite - one or the other :) Go to my home page - you will find the MID file and transcription in all it's glory Mike Le Voi mlevoi@modemss.brisnet.org.au mikel@hds.com.au Visit my home page: http://modemss.brisnet.org.au/~mlevoi Home of VBSYX - The XG/GS SYSEX Decoder and WINJUK95 - The XG/GS MIDI Jukebox ------------------------------ From: "Smith, Jim M." , on 11/11/98 11:25 AM: To: "'elp-digest@reluctant.com'" Subject: Emerson Quote List Hi, folks, In the November 10 edition of the elp-digest, Gary King asked about the musical quotes in "Knife Edge," and it made me realize that maybe it's time to mention the Keith Emerson Musical Quotes List in the elp-digest again. The Emerson quotes list at http://bliss.berkeley.edu/elp/emerson/quote-list.txt is a very thorough compilation of several hundred musical references made by Mr. Emerson, including the quotes in Knife Edge (Janacek's Sinfonietta and JS Bach's French Suite #1 in D minor). If you're interested in finding out where a musical reference comes from, check out the listand use your web browser's "find" function to look for particular songs in the list. Have a Nice day, - Jim Smith [ Editor's Note: The quote list is also available at www.brain-salad.com, the new home of the ELP Digest web site. - John - ] ------------------------------ From: "Linda J. McGuire" , on 11/11/98 12:08 AM: To: kepenu@prins.externet.hu Cc: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: In the Hot Seat font >>Can anyone tell me the name of the font-style of 'In the Hot Seat' or point me to that somewhere? << It's called Mason Serif, and is available in the U.S. from: 1-800-Type-USA, Inc. 47 West Polk Street #100-310 Chicago, IL 60605 312-360-1990 (or 1-800-TYPE-USA) Fax 312-360-1997 There is also a Mason Sans; similar to Mason Serif but without the... well, you know. I'd imagine it's available as both TrueType or Postscript. There may be other sources, but this is the one I know of. Cheers, Lindamac -- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- > < > -----=====FORTISSIMO! 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