ELP Digest 29 March 2001 Volume 11 : Issue 3 The "Telegram Dropped From My Hand" Edition Today's Topics: Breaking News, Rumors, Etc. - KEITH EMERSON - INFERNO on SciFi UK, 3/20/2001 - ELP Welcome Back DVD (March 3, 2001) - PROGRESSIVE ROCK - TOP TEN (CHANNEL FOUR - UK) (March 6, 2001) - Carl Palmer UK Drum Clinic Tour (March 14, 2001) Reader Commentary - Emerson-Mozart (March 3, 2001) - Response to 'Carl's drumming going down' letter (March 3, 2001) - Re: Tim Ryan wrote (March 3, 2001) - BSS DVD Videos + John Wetton (March 4, 2001) - MORE NEWS FROM ITALY (March 8, 2001) - Encores, Legends and Paradox (March 13, 2001) - Inferno (March 13, 2001) - "Fanfare" video (March 13, 2001) - Greg's bass style (March 22, 2001) - Thirty Years Ago Today (March 26, 2001) Questions (and Answers!) - Piano sheet music (March 5, 2001) - Emerson CDs online ... an update (March 6, 2001) New ELP Releases/Products (The ELP Digest does not endorse, etc.) - Asia Book Pre-Orders (March 17, 2001) =========================== Prelude =========================== Good news keeps coming. As you'll read later in this issue, Greg Lake will be touring with RIngo Starr's All-Starr Band this summer, Carl Palmer is doing some drum clinics in the UK, "Inferno" (a movie with a Keith Emerson soundtrack) is on the UK SciFi cable network tomorrow night, and the "Welcome Back" video documentary is out on DVD. All that and reader commentary. Read on.... - John - ------------------------------ Latest News from the Official ELP sites ... Greg's site (www.greglake.com) has new postings under "Ask Greg Lake," "Were You There," and "Desert Island Discs," but the big news is Greg's participation in this summer's "All-Starr Band" tour, as reported above. Here's the text from the site: RINGO STARR INVITES GREG LAKE TO JOIN HIS "ALL STARR BAND" FOR 2001 SUMMER TOUR It's official! Ex-Beatle Ringo Starr has invited Greg Lake to join him on tour this summer, as part of the new version of Ringo Starr & His All Starr Band. Greg will be singing, and playing bass and guitar on the tour, and will be part of a superstar line-up personally assembled by Ringo and his management. In addition to Ringo on drums and vocals, and Greg Lake, the band also includes: Supertramp's Roger Hodgson and Mott The Hoople's former front man, Ian Hunter, both on guitar and vocals. '80s pop star Howard Jones will provide keyboards and vocals, and Sheila E, best known for her work with Prince and as a solo artist, will provide drums, percussion and vocals, as well. The tour is set to begin July 26th in Toronto, Canada, and will feature the biggest hit songs from Ringo (as a Beatle and solo artist), along with the most popular hits from each of the All Starr Band members. A full statement with complete details is forthcoming, and will be posted on this web site shortly. Stayed tuned! BTW, the official tour site is at www.ringotour.com, but it's still under construction. Watch for updates! Carl's site (www.carlpalmer.com) mentions a new drum clinic date, April 11 at the Northampton Drum Centre - more details on the clinics under "Breaking News," below! Also, there's a notice on the site about the first UK dates for Carl's new band, "Palmer:" Carl Palmer's new band "PALMER", featuring Carl, Shaun Baxter & Dave Marks, has announced that they will be touring this summer starting with the Royal Festival Hall on July 18th, 2001. The event, "An Evening with Carl Palmer," will feature the new progressive rock trio covering a variety of material including ELP numbers such as Toccata, Tank, Hoedown, The Barbarian, Enemy God Dances With The Black Spirits, Fanfare For The Common Man, Bullfrog, Canario & L.A. Nights. Here is a partial schedule. More dates will follow. July 18th LONDON - FESTIVAL HALL July 19th BILSTON - ROBIN 2 July 20th DEAL - ASTOR THEATRE July 26th BEVERELY - PICTURE HOUSE Check back for more information as it becomes available. Also ... new secure online shopping cart systems have been announced for Carl's site, and for the Official Global ELP site (www.emersonlakepalmer.com) =========================== Breaking News,Rumors,Etc. =========================== From: Graham Seaman [mailto:babayaga@cableinet.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 12:21 PM To: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: KEITH EMERSON - INFERNO on SciFi UK, 3/20/2001 Hi John. Probabaly not time enough to get this one out, but I saw an ad on the Sci-Fi cable TV channel in the UK for Friday 30th March: 12 midnight - INFERNO (1980) - Horror chiller by Dario Argento. Music by Keith Emerson, arranged by Emerson / Salmon. I haven't seen the film myself but have been waiting patiently for it to come onto television. I bought the soundtrack album some time ago...I'll certainly be recording this one to add to 'Nighthawks' on the shelf! Incidentally, I'm off to Crewe shortly to see 'Noddy's Puncture'. Should be a good night of classic ELP and general Prog. I'll let you know what happens for the Digest. Regards as ever - G. (Childwall, Liverpool) --------------------------------------------- From: Steven G. Brant [trimtab@sprynet.com] To: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: ELP Welcome Back DVD Hi all, As of March 3rd, the ELP DVD is available for pre-order on Amazon.com in the US for $17.49. The release date is March 27th. Keep up the great work, John! Steve Brant (New York City ELP fan since 1971) [ Editor's Note: Since the time this mail was sent to me, the DVD has actually shipped. I got my copy earlier this week though I haven't had time to watch it yet. Thanks for the early warning, Steve. - John - ] --------------------------------------------- From: Graham Seaman [mailto:babayaga@cableinet.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 5:31 PM To: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: PROGRESSIVE ROCK - TOP TEN (CHANNEL FOUR - UK) Hi John et al! I've attached a copy of a few notes I made after recording the above programme featuring ELP and a host of others. I hope you get a chance to see it if you haven't already - it was a good show! regards - Graham. TOP TEN (PROGRESSIVE ROCK) - presented by Bill Bailey ===================================================== One and a half hours in the recent Channel Four 'Top Ten' series dedicated to progressive rock... from its humble beginnings in the 60's (of flower-power & LSD) to its demise under the unstoppable dinosaur-crushing meteorite called 'Punk'. The whole thing was very well put together, and had the highly-entertaining Bill Bailey (musical stand-up comedian in Britain) linking the programme chatting about orcs, goblins and 'giant armoured armadillos'; while dressed in flowing capes and playing heavy chords on a church organ. There were features on all the bands, counting down from 10 to 1. I don't know who ordered the list, (and I don't particularly agree with you-know-who being at a humble No.6), but what the hell! As someone once said...'its only rock n'roll!' Many of the band members and people associated with the bands gave short interviews and it was refreshing to see that quite a few were ready to 'take the proverbial' out and have a laugh at themselves. But as Ian Anderson pointed out during his bit... it's okay if he laughs at himself, but if somebody else did it... he'd punch their lights out. Quotes from the main band members or their associates consisted of: Carl Palmer, Keith Emerson (ELP); Chris Welch (journalist & big prog fan); Bob Harris (Old Grey Whistle Test presenter); Andy Latimer (Camel); John Wetton, Bill Bruford (King Crimson); Nik Turner / Dave Brock / Lemmy (Hawkwind); Geddy Lee / Alex Lifeson / (Rush); Jon Anderson / Chris Squire / Rick Wakeman / Steve Howe (YES); Ian Anderson / Martin Barre (Jethro Tull); John Lodge / Mike Pinder / Justin Hayward (Moody Blues); Peter Gabriel / Tony Banks / Phil Collins / Mike Rutherford (Genesis); Celebrity Fans (or otherwise!) who appeared and contributed: Vic Reeves and Bob Mortimer (Prog Fans), Danny Baker & Stuart Maconie (ELP), Noel Gallagher (Pink Floyd), John Peel (talented, entertaining and yet misguided fellow Scouser who detests ELP) The full band listings, together with a few of the high points and quotes from their 'bits' are: Prog Rock Top Ten ================= 10 - CAMEL totally instrumental album 'Snow Goose' 9 - KING CRIMSON clips of Hyde Park & Schizoid Man performance, clips including Greg Lake and Robert Fripp and his wife, Toyah Wilcox, at home 8 - HAWKWIND 'Drugs, flatulence and a hairy bass player - what madness next?' 'Stacia!....the first dawn of lap-dancing!' Silver Machine; darlings of the Druid festivals, Samantha Fox playing with them at the Brixton Academy). 7 - RUSH 'orcs, goblins and hobbits', album - 2112; YYZee - tribute band 6 - EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER 'They were huge, they were wild...they were three blokes who had their own lorries', intro from 'Old Grey Whistle Test Special'; Brian Flowers - John Cleese (D.P.Gumby) impression, Fanfare clip in Montreal Stadium, Carl Palmer quote - 'If you could look up the word 'pretentious' in the dictionary, you'd see a picture of ELP', The Nice (America clip); Carl clip in mask - Fire video (Crazy World of Arthur Brown), Keith Emerson quote - 'I wanted to get the best goddam three-piece in the world', organ flinging and knives; Carl's solo (church bell); Greg's persian carpet, Carl on Greg - 'People liked him because he was the only guy to stand on his own Persian carpet!'; Montreal Orchestra; Carl - 'There was this guy called John Peel who had a radio programme, and he said that 'ELP were a waste of talent and electricity'. He must be eating his words now.' - film cuts to a shot of John Peel eating oven chips spelling out 'ELP', and saying 'I was right then, and I'm right now!', Jim Davidson - the Generation Game theme and his version of 'Watching over You' 5 - YES Jon Anderson creating farmyards in the studio, Rick Wakeman quote - 'I went round saying in 1974, 'well, this is crap!' (I think he was talking about 'Topographic Oceans'), King Arthur on Ice; Buggles; '90210' 4 - JETHRO TULL Tights and Codpieces; Living in the Past; Flute-rock; Aqualung, comedy concept-album - 'Thick as a Brick' - everyone thought it a 'serious' concept album but it was made as a joke; salmon farming; General Noriega and Jethro Tull music played at volume outside his hideaway by the Armed Forces - psychological warfare. 3 - MOODY BLUES 'born in Birmingham, destined for outer space', 'Go Now'; 'Nights in White Satin'; 'Days of Future Past'; LSD, 'Watch out - the waiter's on acid!', spacecraft, one million miles and Hoot Gibson the astronaut. 2 - GENESIS called 'Posh Prog' due to the connection with Charterhouse school - Banks, Gabriel, Rutherford, Gabriel's 'stories between songs'; the first concept-song - Supper's Ready?, 'Gabriel's singing haemorroid', Collin's took over - 'wearing furry moon-boots and dressing like a gnome', TISWAS - kid's TV, Collins and Rutherford dressed like daisies and being pelted with custard pies - [who from Britain doesn't remember the dreaded Fhantom Flan Flinger?], 'The poppest band in Prog'; solo careers, Tony Banks quote - 'Love us or hate us, we were certainly unique'. 1 - PINK FLOYD 'Kings in the court of Prog'; Hans Keller - 'I'm too much of a musician to appreciate them', Noel Gallagher and the Wall (his favourite album), Keith Emerson repeating a Pink Floyd quote - 'We go into the studio to record separately - it saves arguments', Dark Side of the Moon; Flying Pigs; The Wall; solo projects. End clips of performances from all the bands over the titles. Altogether, a breathtaking breeze through the wonderful world of prog! Catch it on a screen near you if you can. =============================================================== GRAHAM SEAMAN - Liverpool, UK. (Liverpool Empire - 1974. All three nights!!!) --------------------------------------------- From: frank askew [drumfluff@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 5:25 PM To: webmaster@drumplace.co.uk Subject: Carl Palmer UK Drum Clinic Tour Hi, I was wondering if you could post on your website the latest news on Carl Palmer's Drum Clinic tour in the UK. Following are the dates of the clinics, with contact phone numbers. These are the final and confirmed dates (they were incorrect on Carl's website at one point). Also, if there are any drummers out there, they may be interested to know that Carl will be holding a masterclass prior to the doors opening at most of these venues. If you require more information do not hesitate to contact me at this email address. Regards, Frank Askew Carl Palmer will be undertaking his first UK drum clinic tour in over ten years. Dates: 1 April 01 Poole Percussion Tel: 01202 763944 2 April 01 The Percussion House, Cardiff Tel: 02920 614999 3 April 01 Drum Wright, Reading Tel: 0118 9441418 4 April 01 The Drum Centre, Manchester Tel: 0161 7894415 5 April 01 Northern Drum Centre, Bradford Tel: 01274 371271 11 April 01 The Drum Centre, Northampton Tel: 01604 628200 See you there, Frank =========================== Reader Commentary =========================== From: Peter Wilton [pjsw@beaufort.demon.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 1:06 PM To: ELP-digest@reluctant.com Cc: gapsys@club-internet.fr Subject: Emerson-Mozart >From: Giedrius GAPSYS [gapsys@club-internet.fr] >Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 11:50 AM >I was thinking about many other composers of the past but didn't find >anyone defining better than Beethoven what Emerson "is" or "is not". Here >some of my list for consideration: > >KE is : more of Mussorgsky's than of Tchaikovsky's type > more of Rachmaninoff than Scriabin; > more of Stravinsky than Debussy; > more of Berlioz than Chopin; > more of Wagner than Bruckner; > more of Haendel than Bach. I'm not sure whether Emo is on a par with these classical "greats", but somehow the comparisons ring true. I find the last one a bit problematic. Emo could "more of Handel than Bach" in the sense that Handel's preferred compositional genre was dramatic works for the stage (he had to write sacred oratorio for the English market), whereas Bach wrote for the more traditional genre of liturgical music for church services. But it comes to stylistic preference, Handel more often prefers the "lighter" strong tune, and Bach the harmonic and contrapuntal complexity. In this latter sense, Wakeman is more like Handel, and Emo more like Bach. -- Peter Wilton The Gregorian Association Web Page: http://www.beaufort.demon.co.uk --------------------------------------------- From: Russ [karnevel@pacbell.net] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 1:22 PM To: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: Response to 'Carl's drumming going down' letter In the ELP Digest, Vol 11, # 2, a subscriber wrote: "I would like to specify that I love ELP music, I love Carl's playing, I firmly believe that the drumming community must be grateful to Carl for his way to think drums, but first I must be honest with myself. Since ELP's Royal Albert Hall live cd, Carl - according to me - is going down day by day." I must firmly and absolutely disagree with the above statement (about Carl's drumming 'going down') in the strongest possible terms. As a former professional drummer and lifelong fan of ELP, I have virtually every recording of ELP that exists (studio, live, bootleg, video, etc). I have seen ELP once in the 70's (I wasn't even in high school yet in 77), once in 86, saw '3' in 88 or 89, and saw every tour they did in the 90's. I can love Carl's playing and critique it objectively at the same time. I have also found myself thinking, on certain rare occasions, that this particular performance or that particular performance was not Carl's best. That maybe he was losing his edge, his place on the King of the Drummer's throne, etc. Then, I saw ELP headline at the Universal Theater in Los Angeles (97?). This was the tour where I think they were opening for Deep Purple, but for the last show of the tour, they headlined (with Joe Walsh opening !). I absolutely had my breath taken away !!! The band as a whole put on one of the best performances I have ever seen. KE9, 1st pt2 opened the show and I can honestly say it was the single best performance they have ever given on that song. It sounded better than the original studio version ! Greg's voice was in great form, and Keith's playing was superb (he gave an especially long and stunning organ solo on Stones of Years). But for me, the highlight of the show was Carl's drum solo. I honestly thought that Carl must have gone away to a desert island for a year and totally revamped his style. He did all of his 'greatest hits' of course (the gongs, the single bass drum sixteenth notes solo, the cymbal work, etc). What was amazing to me was all the NEW things that he put into the solo, most of it snare drum work. He did things that I had simply never seen him do before, and he did these new techniques with all the flare and quality that we expect from our beloved Carl. Perhaps he had taken lessons from Buddy Rich ? The whole point comes down to this; Carl is NOT resting on his laurels. He is obviously reaching, stretching, trying new things and new techniques. And I believe he is not only doing a marvelous job of it, but he can STILL blow away ANY modern rock drummer that might be foolish enough to challenge him. Neal Peart might be a little better, technically, on the large kit, but Carl can clean Neal's clock six ways to Sunday on the small kit and for overall showmanship. Russ ( gann_man2000@yahoo.com ) --------------------------------------------- From: TMJR1@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 6:57 PM To: ELP-digest@reluctant.com Subject: Re: Re: Tim Ryan wrote In response to Giedrius GAPSYS concerning my statement about Keith ("Keith is the Mozart of our times" - it was not my intent to start a contest as to who understands the lives of passed composers best. I'm sure I would take a back seat in that contest - although I'm more familiar with the works of Mozart and Beethoven than the average "Joe". What I meant by my statement is: A) (In my opinion) Keith is incredibly talented. B) (In my opinion) I think Keith is under appreciated - as was Mozart during his lifetime. C) (In my opinion) Keith has not received his just rewards - and will probably be more appreciated after he is dead - much the same as Mozart and like many jazz artists. I did not intend to create a debate about "styles". I have not been trained in the classic sense to discern the sounds of the musical greats. In fact - I'm not a musician - but I feel I have a pretty good ear for talent. Wouldn't it have sounded lame if I just said "Keith is great"? Was is necessary to negate the compliment in order to show your understanding of classical composers? By the way - I'm a great fan of Rick Wakeman also. Tim Ryan --------------------------------------------- From: garpal [garpal@sympatico.ca] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 7:21 PM To: ELP-digest@reluctant.com; maburns@nac.net; paulvds@ozemail.com.au Subject: BSS DVD Videos + John Wetton I just tried Mary Ann Burns little trick mentioned in ELP Digest Vol. 11 #2 on the new BSS-DVD video extras - IT WORKS!! I have a Toshiba DVD player. I started the last song, Lucky Man and then hit the "Random" key on my remote. After Lucky Man was over, it switches over to the extra video features. It's the material from the Manticore Documentary. The quality of this material, video-wise is poor. Hopefully, they will improve the video and audio when they release the documentary on DVD (I haven't seen the quality on the video tapes offered from the ELP web site). Lord knows why you needed a DVD-Audio player to access these tracks. Also, the fifth video track, Lucky Man is from same era as the other videos, not 1992, like the credits claim. Thanks Mary Anne for saving me and other people countless hundreds of dollars having to buy or upgrade our systems to a DVD-Audio players. Also, thanks to Paul Vandersar for responding to my Replace Greg Lake with John Wetton comment. You're right, John is not Greg. I meant that if Greg wasn't up to the task of doing some new progressive material, then maybe John Wetton would be a good choice. Since he can still sing and has had considerably more output then Greg and isn't afraid of doing something new and experimental. Look at his work in U.K., Roxy Music, King Crimson, ASIA, etc. etc. Also, whatever the group was called, EWP or WEP or 3-2 or 3-squared, whenever they toured John could more than be able to sing the ELP classics they'd perform on tour, like Tarkus or Pictures. It would also give him a chance to have a dig a Greg for replacing him in the ASIA in ASIA concert broadcast. That's what I meant. Love to hear what anybody else has to say. Regards, J-P --------------------------------------------- From: usat an [mailto:usat-an@katamail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 9:51 AM To: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: MORE NEWS FROM ITALY MORE CARL CLINICS IN ITALY Carl had more clinics in Italy organized once more by Paolo Sburlati: * Moncalieri (Torino) - 24 february 2001 * Selvazzano D.(Padova) - 25 february 2001 * Concordia S.(Portogruaro) - 26 february 2001 * Pesaro - 27 february 2001 * Atri (Teramo) - 28 february. I went to the one in Pesaro, at the Teatro Sperimentale, that began at 4:30 p.m. and ended at 6:30 p.m.. I don't know anything about the other dates and I learnt about those clinics from Paolo Rigoli again. The clinic was similar the one I saw in Bologna last 1 december. During the clinic, Carl announced once again the coming out, in late April or perhaps at the beginning of May, of his 2 cd anthology which title will be "CARL PALMER - DO YOU WANNA PLAY CARL?". This title refers to a real episode of his life. As Carl said - he was in London watching a show of Buddy Rich and his orchestra; he was in the crowd of spectators when Buddy saw and recognized him. Unexpectedly, Bud asked Carl to come on the stage and play with him just saying: "Do you wanna play Carl?". This anthology will include the Percussion Concerto recorded together with the London Symphony Orchestra, the very first recording of Carl (he was only fifteen!), and about 40 minutes of unpublished music. At the end, Carl autographed my copy of the book "The show that never ends" and the Verona 1992 Black Moon tour book and ticket. In the evening, there was the show that began at 9 and half p.m. and ended at 11 p.m.. The set list was: * HOEDOWN * BARBARIAN (Carl didn't use brushes, but the hi-hat) * TARKUS (Eruption and Stones) * BLUES VARIATIONS (yes !!!) * KE9 1st IMPRESS. part2 * TANK (with solo) * NUTROCKER * FANFARE. The band was formed by: * Gianluca Tagliavini on Hammond C3, MiniMoog and Roland * Roberto Cassetta on bass. Thanks to my translator Raffa, the local promoter Adriano Pedini and, of course, to you John. "This company will return one day" Francesco from Assisi Italy --------------------------------------------- From: wayout97@swbell.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:23 AM To: elp-digest-web@reluctant.com Subject: Encores, Legends and Paradox I just wanted to comment on my opinion of the ELP "Tribute CD" - Encores, Legends and Paradox. I recently purchased this CD and have totally fallen in love with it. It gives a '90's, 2000 perspective on some of the greatest music ever written. You have to remember this is a TRIBUTE CD, subject to the artists interpretations. Not a ELP remake. My personal opinion is that they have captured the essence of ELP's music and evidently Emo himself feels the same, as he endorses the CD himself. No it is not ELP, but a rendition of their music. If we can't get anything new from ELP, it is at least nice to see and hear someone else's renditions of some of the greatest music ever written. Wayne Beavers Wayout97@swbell.net --------------------------------------------- From: RNewell@dhhs.state.nh.us Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 7:23 AM To: elp-digest-web@reluctant.com Subject: Inferno I bought "Inferno" on DVD at Circuit City this weekend. I had never seen it before but have had the soundtrack since 1980. The movie is visually beautiful. It sounds great on DVD and Keith Emerson's score is lush and appropriate. There is some synth but mostly piano and strings. --------------------------------------------- From: Gordon Buchanan [gordonbuchanan@ntlworld.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 4:32 PM To: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: "fanfare" video This video is available on the "RockAid Armenia" charity video originally released in 1989. "Fanfare" is the opening track of mainly heavy metal songs by a range of popular bands at the time, however "fanfare" is only a mono recording on an otherwise HiFi 77 minutes. If still available it was originally released by Virgin Music Video VVD 636. --------------------------------------------- From: Jim Allen [karnevil9@mediaone.net] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:58 PM To: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: Greg's bass style Hello: Rainer B. got excited about Greg's bass playing. I share that enthusiasm. He included this example: Example #1: Tarkus Intro G |------------1------------ D 6|-----1-------1------ 2------ A 8|---1---1-------1-------2---- E |-1--------------------------2-- Er, well, first off Rainer, "Eruption" starts out in 5/4!!! :-) I was lucky enough to be able to sneak in to a soundcheck in 1992. One of the pieces they played was "Eruption". I watched Greg closely to get hints about the fingering. It's actually done this way: G |--------8------13------------9-------- D 5|-----8-----8-------13----------9----- A 4|---8----------------------13-------9-- E |-------------------------------------------- This way it's in the correct octave, notes wise. Plus, the fingering is actually a little easier; you don't have to dip down to the E and with a quick change of hand positions from frets 8-13-9 you can also do the right hand picking---right hand fingers need not apply!!--relatively easily. How does he play that so fast? :-) Paul also came to Greg's defense as a bass player. To his list of fine Greg moments I would add the lines in "Stones of Years" from WBMF as a good example of why he was/is a fine player. Very melodic and a perfect bridge between Keith and Carl's playing. Hot stuff indeed! Rainer, are you sure there's bass guitar on "The Three Fates"? Organ solo/piano solo/3 pianos + percussion is what I hear; I don't hear any bass. "Atropos", the 3rd section is listed as "Piano Trio" FWIW. Regards, Jim --------------------------------------------- From: bjorn-are.davidsen@telenor.com Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 5:32 AM To: elp-digest@reluctant.com Subject: Thirty Years Ago Today It was thirty years ago today, In Newcastle you began to play You've been going in and out of style But you're guaranteed to raise a smile. So may we introduce to you Its us you've known for all these years, E L P'ies Lonely Hearts Club Fans. We're E. L. P'ies Lonely Hearts Club Fans, You hoped we would enjoy the show, We're E. L. P'ies Lonely Hearts Club Fans, We sat back and let the evening go. E. L. P'ies lonely, E. L. P'ies lonely, E. L. P'ies Lonely Hearts Club Fans. It was wonderful to be there, It was certainly a thrill. We were such a lovely audience, We'd liked to take you home with us, We'd loved to take you home. You didn't really want to stop the show, But a thought you finally let us know, That the singer liked to sing alone, In a short while you all were gone So let us remind you of Newcastle and the bill we shared and E. L. P.'ies Lonely Hearts Club Fans. Yours Bjorn Are =========================== Questions (and Answers!) =========================== From: JohnW@ilx.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:13 AM To: shoo@i4f.net Cc: elp-digest@reluctant.com >>> From: markandshawna [shoo@i4f.net] >>> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 7:18 PM >>> To: elp-digest-web@reluctant.com >>> Subject: Piano sheet music >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I was wondering if you would be able to help me. I used to own the piano >>> sheet music to Benny the Bouncer by ELP. I have lost through a move and >>> would love to know where I can go to get a copy. I have looked all over >>> the internet with no avail. Please help if you can. >>> >>> Thank you and Happy Holidays, >>> Mark Its definitely the "shiny" one, that was released first. But is out of print. John [ Editor's Note: I've received confirmation that the sheet music book available at www.bn.com does indeed have a "shiny" cover, but it was published in 1996 by Music Sales Corp. It doesn't include "Benny the Bouncer," but here's what it does have: C'est La Vie The Endless Enigma, Pts. I and II From the Beginning I Believe in Father Christmas Karn Evil 9 (1st Impression Part II) Lucky Man Still ... You Turn Me On Take A Pebble Trilogy This is the "newer" shiny black book. You'd think that maybe aomeone would figure out that have THREE different ELP sheet music books all with similar names, all with black covers (2 with shiny black covers and 1 with a duller black cover) would be confusing. Oh well. I guess we'll have to start referring to them by their ISBN number! - John - ] --------------------------------------------- From: John Arnold [arnold@reluctant.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 3:06 PM Subject: Emerson CDs online ... an update Here is a response I received from a reader about the availability of Emerson CDs online: Good news for Julian Chancellor ... and others of the faithful who are still searching for Keith Emerson's solo CDs. "Changing States" is available in a couple of different formats. And, while challenging, it's not impossible to find other KE solo CDs online ... it just takes a bit of burrowing. First, go to Keith's own site (www.keithemerson.com) and click on the "Liquid Audio" link (http://www.liquidmusicnetwork.com/cgi-bin/search/search.cgi/114210034@etown ?search_type=ArtistItem&artist_id=26060 ) where you can download tracks from "Cream of Emerson Soup" (the re-named "Changing States") as well as "Honky" and the "Christmas Album." You can also purchase the latter two albums directly from Keith's site (http://www.e-zstore.com/emerson/index.cfm) through a new link that just appeared today. This is probably the best way to purchase these items and be sure that your money actually finds its way back to the performer. :-) Same thing goes for the official ELP site -- show your appreciation to the Manticore organization for providing the impetus that has made so much ELP music and video available! The Emerson shop (http://www.emersonlakepalmer.com/emoshop.html) also has the "Honky" and "The Christmas Album" reissues by Gunslinger Records. Lots of "L" and "P" merchandise at the site, too, at: (http://www.emersonlakepalmer.com/merchdse.html) In addition, the original "Changing States" CD is still available at these two online sites: CVC Collectables of Celina, Ohio says it has "Changing States ... finally back in stock" for $25. Tel: (419) 586-6636 Fax: (419) 586-6763, Email: BiggsCVC@aol.com or check out the site at http://www.cvccollect.com/proglist.html ... they also have "Inferno," "Harmagedon" and "The Christmas Album" as well as a number of ELP and Greg Lake titles that are more widely available, notably on the official sites. Another possibility: Amp Music (http://www.ampmusic.demon.co.uk/amporders.html) has "Changing States" for 10L UK/12L non-UK as well as "The Christmas Album" and the Christmas single featuring selections from the album. Other KE CDs currently available: German Music Express (www.musicexpress.com) still carries "Harmagedon" under the name "Genma Taisen." Get Music (www.getmusic.com) has "The Christmas Album." CD Now (www.cdnow.com) has several of the "Changing States" tracks available as "singles" for download -- at $1.49-$4.49 apiece -- and they also have "The Christmas Album" and "Honky." Barnes & Noble (www.bn.com) has "The Manhattan Collection" and "Honky" ... as well as a wide selection of Emerson appearances on other albums ... including Rod Stewart's "1964-1969" ... "Steinway to Heaven" ... "The Rod Stewart Album" ... "To Cry You A Song" (Tull Tribute) ... Tempest's "Turn of the Wheel" (as a contributing keyboardist) ... "Goblin Vol. 4" (for track performance as well as arranging and mixing) ... Erik Norlander's "Threshold" (Keith supplied liner notes) ... and Glenn Hughes' "The Way It Is" (as a guitarist [!]) ... as well as a slew of Nice CDs including the first three releases and several compilations ... and, last but not least, a host of prog rock collections that mine nuggets from the ELP catalog. There's even a "Demonstration and Test CD" from Gateway Records designed to help you test the quality of your sound system which features Keith on piano. All of these choices come up when you do a search for "Keith Emerson." Amazon's UK site (http://www.amazon.co.uk ) has "The Christmas Album," "Honky," "Inferno," "Nighthawks" and several Nice titles as well as the Christmas single and the single version of "Honky Tonk Train Blues" from 1977 ... and their U.S. site (www.amazon.com) has many of the same selections as well as "The Manhattan Collection." P.S. In response to Sean Matthews, "The Emerson Collection" doesn't seem to be available anywhere at present, but all of the tracks appear on other CDs, right? Happy hunting! [ Editor's Note: This information is, to the best of my knowledge, accurate. However, as with all commerce (e- or normal), please use your own judgment before spending your money or giving away your credit card numbers. Be careful! - John - ] =========================== New ELP Releases/Products/Links (The ELP Digest does not endorse, etc.) =========================== From: adams.gallant@pei.sympatico.ca Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 7:05 PM To: elp-digest-web@reluctant.com Subject: Asia Book Pre-Orders Greetings: Just a quick word to let you know that the long-awaited Asia biography, "The Heat Goes On", has gone to the printers, and that pre-orders can now be accepted. The book will be ready for shipping beginning the first week of April. Please visit the band's Official web site at http://www.asiaworld.org for details. 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